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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:01 pm to
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:01 pm to
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U.N. Amb. Linda Thomas-Greenfield addresses U.N. Security Council meeting: “[Putin] has put before the world a choice. We must meet the moment and we must not look away. History tells us that looking the other way…will be a far more costly path.”


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Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177270 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:05 pm to
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This wouldn't have happened with Orange Man in DC.


Russia has invaded Ukraine under the last two Democrat Presidents. Russia didn't make a peep for 4 years when Trump was President.

But Trump was colluding with Russia and was Putin's puppet. Or something.

Putin perceives weakness and has taken what he's wanted when Obama and Biden were in the White House.

People are frickin retarded.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:08 pm to
Deutsch Bank.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21764 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:09 pm to
That whole Russian veto thing is going to be problematic at the UN.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177270 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:13 pm to
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That whole Russian veto thing is going to be problematic at the UN.


Russia is going to wipe their dick on the feckless UN like Japan did to the League of Nations before WWII.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15962 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:18 pm to
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Russia has invaded Ukraine under the last two Democrat Presidents.
but invaded Georgia during Bush…
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177270 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:22 pm to
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but invaded Georgia during Bush…


Bush was a weak President. The world was distracted by the financial crisis.

Russia was as quiet as they've been in a long time under the prosperity and strong leadership we had from 2017-Covid.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:31 pm to
The Boat, hold me. I’m cold.
Posted by Cfrobel
Member since Nov 2019
331 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 9:54 pm to
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I use Reagan as my example because I believe he is the last American president that truly struck fear into the hearts of Russian leaders


It was all rhetoric for the public, Gorbachev knew the USSR had become a failed state under Brezhnev and detente was the only chance to save the country from collapse.

The shame is I believe Reagan and Gorbachev saw a future with warm relations between Americans and Russians, while those who followed in the 90s set us back decades.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138891 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:03 pm to
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But Trump was colluding with Russia and was Putin's puppet. Or something.

Putin perceives weakness and has taken what he's wanted when Obama and Biden were in the White House.

People are frickin retarded.

People think this is the reasoning and it's not.

Trump was skeptical of NATO and didn't buy into their status quo bullshite. Obama/Biden helped stage a coup to expand NATO/EU to Ukraine and Putin didn't like it. When Trump took over, it was clear he didn't have the same motives as every president since HW Bush, thus the Ukraine tensions relaxed. Now that the media has built up muh Russia, and status quo Joe is back in, they've gone back to the 30 year strategy of fricking with Russia so they can expand their influence and this pops off as predicted. Of course, the media also has make Putin into the caricature that they've created so they don't look like a bunch of disingenuous assholes.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:21 pm to
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will be a far more costly path.

For all politicians with their laundered funds in Ukraine.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 10:22 pm
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18482 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:28 pm to
Where do you get this stuff lol? Ukraine is neither a member of NATO or the EU.

Bush 1 wanted to keep the Soviet Union together as he felt that was the most stable situation.
Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:29 pm to
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Bush 1 wanted to keep the Soviet Union together as he felt that was the most stable situation.
Pretty sure that’s exactly what he was implying
Posted by Amon
Member since Jun 2020
300 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:33 pm to
We should invade Cuba using the same argument. No one would expect it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138891 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:23 pm to
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Where do you get this stuff lol? Ukraine is neither a member of NATO or the EU.

The fact that you didn't understand what I said there shows me you don't know what I'm talking about
quote:

Bush 1 wanted to keep the Soviet Union together as he felt that was the most stable situation.


Ok
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:48 pm to
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This wouldn't have happened with Orange Man in DC.


He was literally impeached for withholding defense systems for Ukraine waiting for them to dig up some made up dirt on his election opponent's son. Of course, he also called for the end of NATO, a treaty literally created to oppose Russian aggression against the West.

“We don’t rely on American banks. We have all the funding we need out of Russia.” -- Eric Trump in 2014

Posted by BohicaBob
Member since Feb 2022
392 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:53 pm to
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He was literally impeached for withholding defense systems for Ukraine
He was also literally the first American president to give them lethal military munitions after Obama refused them.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157679 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:55 pm to
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made up dirt on his election opponent's son


: lol:

Dementia Joe isn’t the big guy, right?

You freaks are funny.

Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
18482 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 12:42 am to
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The fact that you didn't understand what I said there shows me you don't know what I'm talking about


Well Ukraine is not part of either, so they obviously haven't been expanded to Ukraine
Posted by adam2000
Central
Member since Sep 2016
1167 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 3:51 am to
Not good. I suggest people should start gardening.
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