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LaPlace man charged with murder for shooting man who reached into his truck.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:21 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:21 am
Hmmmmmm.. A lot of people here have been saying they would 100% shoot a man who aggressively approached their vehicle.
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He also had a $500,000 bond.
What makes this case different? I thought we were allowed to shoot people who aggressively threatened us and approached our vehicles?
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He also had a $500,000 bond.
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The incident was recorded by a video surveillance system, showing Vicknair "aggressively" approaching Batiste's truck, reaching inside through the window and then stepping back and holding his chest before collapsing, according to the Kenner arrest affidavit. Vicknair, the father of a young son, died that day.
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A Jefferson Parish grand jury on Thursday handed up an indictment charging LaPlace grandfather with murder, for fatally shooting another man in Kenner earlier this year. Roger Batiste, 75, was formally charged with second-degree murder, for shooting Shane Vicknair, 27, of River Ridge, on May 3.
Batiste, who had no criminal history before his May 3 arrest, has said he was defending himself when he shot Vicknair.
What makes this case different? I thought we were allowed to shoot people who aggressively threatened us and approached our vehicles?
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Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:23 am to Napoleon
What color was the shooter?
There is your answer.
There is your answer.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:23 am to Napoleon
It's gotta be the wrong black/white combo.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:25 am to Napoleon
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What makes this case different?
I can't tell you - I honestly don't know all the facts of either case, but I agree they're very similar on the surface.
Pops pled guilty to murder, too. I'd have taken my chances with a jury, even in JP - FFS he was 75 at the shooting and 77 at the guilty plea - NO CRIMINAL RECORD.
He did only get 5 years, but that might as well be life.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:25 am to Meauxjeaux
It is, black 75 year old shooter, white 22 year old victim.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:27 am to Napoleon
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People who are saying this young man got what he deserved,do not know the whole story.Yes,young Mr.Vicknair did approach Mr.Batiste truck and confront him. That,however was the second time,Mr. Batiste got into a confrontation with Mr.Vicknair in front of Mr.Vicknair's auto repair shop due to a disabled vehicle blocking the street. Mr. Batiste left and latter returned to the shop,He shot Mr.Vicknair while seated in his truck ,which was running at the time.After shooting the victim he drove away. Mr.Batiste should have never returned to Mr.Vicknair's shop and should have driven away if he feared for his life. I knew Shane Vicknair and his family,though not well.He was a hard working young man as is his father,he was a family man and loved his son. He was also an avid drag racer and gearhead and will be missed by many,old and young!
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This old man was wrong! He returned to the scene of the crime with the intent of letting the other man know he was carrying a gun. They had a prior altercation. the old man should have never gone back, could have left at any time, called the police if he felt threatened!
There are details that probably won't help his case. If this had been a spur of the moment thing, he'd probably have no problem walking from this.
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:29 am to crankbait
If that's true then it certainly changes things
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:29 am to Napoleon
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white 22 year old victim.
27-year old victim - TP had to correct that age in subsequent reporting.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:29 am to Napoleon
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It is, black 75 year old shooter, white 22 year old victim.
27 year old shouldnt have been the aggressor, look where it got him
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:31 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:29 am to Napoleon
and got 5 years for negligent homicide. He also originally drove away after he shot him
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:30 am to crankbait
Yep:
The police noted, however, that Batiste made no attempt to get away from Vicknair's aggressive behavior. Batiste surrendered and was held in the parish jail in lieu of a $500,000 bond.
The police noted, however, that Batiste made no attempt to get away from Vicknair's aggressive behavior. Batiste surrendered and was held in the parish jail in lieu of a $500,000 bond.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:32 am to Napoleon
Scanned the article...
My initial observation is that the shooting took place in early May and the criminal indictment was in Mid-Sept. Was the shooter jailed during the interim period?
This Gasser guy isn't out of the woods yet. He may very well find himself indicted by a Grand Jury or even charged sooner, if more compelling evidence surfaces.
My initial observation is that the shooting took place in early May and the criminal indictment was in Mid-Sept. Was the shooter jailed during the interim period?
This Gasser guy isn't out of the woods yet. He may very well find himself indicted by a Grand Jury or even charged sooner, if more compelling evidence surfaces.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:32 am to crankbait
Ronald Gasser could have driven to a police station, Gasser could have driven away. Oh yeah, opinions don't matter. Fact is you can kill anyone who approaches your vehicle in a threatening manner, so says the consensus of the OT.
(my opinion --- Both Batiste and Gasser are wrong)
(my opinion --- Both Batiste and Gasser are wrong)
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:32 am to Napoleon
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Vicknair, the father of a young son, died that day
Odds that he was actively fathering the kid?
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:34 am to t00f
there are differences for sure. Batiste is negligent.
Just this kind of shows you can't just shoot anyone who reaches into your vehicle.
Just this kind of shows you can't just shoot anyone who reaches into your vehicle.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:35 am to White Roach
120 days to indict before one is released from jail or any bail obligation.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:35 am to Napoleon
Wait I thought dabigfella said you can shoot anyone walking towards your vehicle?
This post was edited on 12/4/16 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:35 am to Lester Earl
also the Batiste incident happened where a tow truck was blocking the road, and then moved and he was free to leave. Vicknair ran up to his truck (in the street), and instead of pulling off Batiste stayed and accepted the confrontation. My guess is that Gasser did not have that option
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:36 am to crankbait
This. If you return to the scene it shows intent. Pretty clear cut.
Posted on 12/4/16 at 9:37 am to tLSU
he was jailed and got out on $500,000 bond.
I didn't know at first he left and came back. That shows intent, hence the murder 2.
Damn. move along.
I didn't know at first he left and came back. That shows intent, hence the murder 2.
Damn. move along.
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