- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
LAPD buying 7000 body cams, but wants to review footage before release
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:29 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:29 am
So the LAPD decides that it's officers all need body cams now. But then they also decide that they are going to review all of the footage before it is released to the public, and before they write their reports. What kind of shite is that? I guess they are trying to stop themselves from lying on police reports anymore, but they basically admit that they were lying. Wouldn't that also give them plenty of time to edit the recordings? I suspect a lot of cameras are gonna magically stop working now when an incident goes down.
I feel like a better policy would be to upload them to a server after every day, where the cops could not see or edit them.
I support body cams, but why wouldn't the videos be available to anyone who asks for them? If you want to sue them, you basically have to be completely sure of everything that went on before you spend the thousands of dollars on a lawyer to file a civil suit.
LINK
Also, what departments in LA have body cams, and is there even a push for cops to get them?
I feel like a better policy would be to upload them to a server after every day, where the cops could not see or edit them.
quote:
The LAPD policy -- approved by a 3-1 Police Commission vote in April -- allows officers to review images from the cameras before writing reports or giving statements to internal investigators. But the LAPD has said it does not plan on publicly releasing the recordings unless they are part of a criminal or civil court proceeding.
I support body cams, but why wouldn't the videos be available to anyone who asks for them? If you want to sue them, you basically have to be completely sure of everything that went on before you spend the thousands of dollars on a lawyer to file a civil suit.
LINK
Also, what departments in LA have body cams, and is there even a push for cops to get them?
11
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:31 am to Hammertime
quote:
I support body cams, but why wouldn't the videos be available to anyone who asks for them?
Shouldn't these be public record?
quote:
If you want to sue them, you basically have to be completely sure of everything that went on before you spend the thousands of dollars on a lawyer to file a civil suit.
"Video was lost. Our bad."
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:32 am to Hammertime
BTR is in the process of implementing them.
How long that will take is anyone's guess
How long that will take is anyone's guess
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:34 am to Hammertime
quote:
If you want to sue them, you basically have to be completely sure of everything that went on before you spend the thousands of dollars on a lawyer to file a civil suit.
As opposed to what?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:34 am to TigerRob20
quote:
How long that will take is anyone's guess
100 speeding tickets and 50 brake tags are the requirement to get your camera.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:36 am to elprez00
quote:
"Video was lost. Our bad."
"camera had a glitch"
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:39 am to fightin tigers
Viewing the video and deciding for yourself
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:41 am to Hammertime
quote:
Viewing the video and deciding for yourself
So you need a video to decide if your rights were violated?
Sounds like you should be wearing a body cam.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:41 am to Hammertime
They will have to add an entire department to handle review and storage of the videos...
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:44 am to Hammertime
Are you comfortable, if you happen to be on that video, possibly after one of the worst moments in your life, for that to be made public immediately? There's a reason why incident reports aren't public record...
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:45 am to wickowick
Every jackass getting a ticket will want a copy to make sure no words were out of order. If there is a "glitch" automatic conspiracy.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:46 am to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
There's a reason why incident reports aren't public record..
But they should be obtainable in a court case, right?
For example, lets say for some reason you want a copy of the video obtained during your traffic stop. They would have to disclose this info, correct?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:48 am to Hammertime
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:48 am to elprez00
quote:
For example, lets say for some reason you want a copy of the video obtained during your traffic stop. They would have to disclose this info, correct?
Were your rights violated in the traffic stop? Yes, it should be available.
Are you just wanting it to prove you didn't speed? No.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:54 am to Hammertime
Why would the public get to see them and the officer not get to see it?
Personally, I would want accurate reports. If people want the video they should ask for it. If you want it for court, you subpoena it. In court you will learn that rights not asserted are waived.
Personally, I would want accurate reports. If people want the video they should ask for it. If you want it for court, you subpoena it. In court you will learn that rights not asserted are waived.
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:55 am to fightin tigers
I'd like to be able to decide if the video evidence showed enough for a lawsuit. If not, the cops' words are always taken with more weight than the civilian's, and you're up the creek
I just got a copy of a report that says "LAW ENFORCEMENT USE ONLY"
quote:I have gotten copies of police reports before, and all you have to do is fill out some paperwork. Yeah they scratch out the names on it, but you can see the reports as soon as they are in the system
Are you comfortable, if you happen to be on that video, possibly after one of the worst moments in your life, for that to be made public immediately? There's a reason why incident reports aren't public record...
I just got a copy of a report that says "LAW ENFORCEMENT USE ONLY"
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:58 am to Five0
It just gives them an opportunity to not lie on their reports. It also gives them a chance to edit it, or magically make the camera "go down" if they know something they didn't like was on there
IMHO, it should be uploaded externally at the end of each shift for both to be able to see it, and that way no one can touch it
IMHO, it should be uploaded externally at the end of each shift for both to be able to see it, and that way no one can touch it
quote:One of your blue line buddies didn't waze himself the other day and gave me a ticket at a speed trap
Five0
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 9:02 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 8:59 am to Hammertime
so if your SSN or similar information is said on the audio, shouldn't the police have a chance to redact it?
Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:02 am to Hammertime
quote:
I'd like to be able to decide if the video evidence showed enough for a lawsuit. If not, the cops' words are always taken with more weight than the civilian's, and you're up the creek
File a lawsuit, ask for the video. Are these videos treated different under the freedom of information act?
Having the world be able to read a report about your wife being murdered or daughter being found after a rape is one thing. Having a video of that moment readily accessible is a huge step further. I hope you can see this difference.
This post was edited on 9/1/15 at 9:04 am
Posted on 9/1/15 at 9:03 am to prplhze2000
If they can do that, who's to say they won't do it for other parts of the video that they don't like?
If you were involved, you should be able to see it
If you were involved, you should be able to see it
Page 1 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News