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re: La. House to vote on recreational weed today. Updated with video link

Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:23 am to
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:23 am to
quote:

Post them. I'm only responding to what I'm replied to as I have a real job, not sitting on mounds of cash from weed sales petrified patrol deputies are going to beat down my door any minute and take my life savings like most of this board is doing.


That's a mighty big assumption you have their chief.

I haven't smoked weed in two decades.
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:23 am to
quote:

do you know how many invasive searches start with "the smell of marijuana emitting from the vehicle"?


Ok, and how are they profiting off of this? I keep seeing fines. All of you seem very educated on the fines so break them down for me. Name of the fines and where the money goes.
Posted by cusoonkpd
Big Mamou
Member since Apr 2015
1714 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:24 am to
I am a 64 year old conservative. I am 100% for this bill. The state Republican Party is stupid to oppose this bill.
Posted by A Smoke Break
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2018
2175 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:24 am to
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There is a rural parish that runs a speed trap on the interstate and the local paper is full of out-of-state people busted for all sorts of drugs and cash, frequently including large amounts of marijuana. Yeah, I just know all that none of the cash is pocketed and none of the drugs make their way back to the streets.


Jennings? Has to be acadia parish.

St landry parish, especially 1-49 is notorious for this. And Guidroz has such a massive boner for simple possession and making money off of it, the dude might as well be on bangbros.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
117343 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:25 am to
Please provide some substance behind “most cops turn a blind eye to weed.” Thanks.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
11809 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:25 am to
Tangipahoa does this all the time too.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35033 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:25 am to
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i was literally arguing this in a thread on the poli board this weekend, about how "conservatives" (aka, Trumpkins) have gone all progressive deconstructionist on words like "conservative"



its fricking laughable how the trumpkins with their cult of personality fail to stick to their principles all in the name of owning or stopping the libs. Not fricking realizing byfalling into this cycle they have accidently and slowly become liberal big government people themselves wanting to control everything...just with their rules.

and people like you and I who stick to principles are "not understanding the biggest threat is liberals and we must do whatever it takes to stop them"

god fricking forbid we ask both sides to follow the constitution.

Perfect example is when Trump went after Thomas Massie on the first covid stimulus bill. Trump was mad because Thomas had the audacity to ask that an in person true vote be held, as the constitution and rules in congress mandated, on the largest non budgetted spending bill in US history.

I was attacked relentlessly on the PT for saying Thomas was right with the Trumpkins getting pissed because I dare to stick to conservative principles.

this is the same case with so called conservatives wanting more and more government and chearing on unconstitutional spying and search/seaizures. Its the low IQ people though that have no real critical thinking skills that are like this.
Posted by glassman
Next to the beer taps at Finn's
Member since Oct 2008
117326 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:25 am to
quote:

Ok, and how are they profiting off of this?


Diversion programs.
Posted by Aced
Member since Jul 2013
1671 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:26 am to
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It gives a good excuse for the police to search a vehicle for other things (like illegal guns, harsher drugs)


True gotta keep bullshite laws on the books so we can find ways to bypass the 4th amendment. Who doesn’t love them some good old fashioned unreasonable search and seizure.

quote:

Most of the people who are for legalization are lib losers and I don't want to see them happy.


Straight up admitting politics and public policies basically amounts to a team sport for you. I mean appreciate the honest but yikes. The fact these are the best arguments we have to keep it illegal really highlights it’s time to legalize
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:27 am to
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Ok, and how are they profiting off of this?

1. civil asset forfeiture
2. arrests. creates perceived demand for services
3. fines/CCs flow to the system. sheriffs collect this. other than getting a piece of the pie, it, again, creates demand for services
4. sheriffs get money for inmates held in their jails. YUGE money maker. cut down on arrests, you cut down on confinement
Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1115 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Jennings? Has to be acadia parish.

St landry parish, especially 1-49 is notorious for this. And Guidroz has such a massive boner for simple possession and making money off of it, the dude might as well be on bangbros.


Bienville on I-20
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22872 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:27 am to
quote:

The state’s sheriffs, who enjoy huge influence at the State Capitol


We all know what that means.

Posted by lachellie
LALA Land
Member since Aug 2012
1115 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Tangipahoa does this all the time too.


Isn’t that where JBE’s brother is sheriff?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Please provide some substance behind “most cops turn a blind eye to weed.” Thanks.

a city beat cop in an urban area may turn a blind eye to weed

a traffic patrol cop whose job requires him to create reasons to pull people over AND search? MJ is huge to that person
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
35033 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:29 am to
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they're going to have to really start focusing on the nexus, especially when their search doesn't reveal MJ (and it's other drugs). practically, over time, it's going to be tougher for cops to just lie about smelling weed when they can't really show the impairment. Courts aren't going to give them the leeway once it's clear they're lying. It's a lot tougher now b/c MJ is illegal so they're being pulled over for "drug possession" and if they find drugs, rationally it's a more logical nexus.


why any critical thinking conservative would be against making search and seizures harder is beyond me. We have a constitutional admendment strictly for this.....its pretty fricking important.

The whole well I dont do it so I dont care attitude kills me.

I dont smoke weed nor would i even if it was legal, but why in the frick would i want to make it easier on the government to perform searches? Why would i not want to change something when the status quo has feld and has been in place for 40+ years now?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

Diversion programs.

THAT is the money maker for the prosecutor offices, not the LEO
Posted by The Melt
Metairie
Member since Apr 2018
984 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:29 am to
quote:

That's a mighty big assumption you have their chief.

I haven't smoked weed in two decades.


I'm just showing the illogical nature of some of these posts. As I've laid out, cops are barely arresting or even investigating in reference to weed nowadays unless it falls in their laps, street cops have no clue how to complete the asset forfeiture proceedings so the few arrests that are made aren't resulting in asset forfeiture, investigative units don't seize unless it's a bunch of cash and there is a ton of evidence that the proceeds are from weed sales so very few weed arrests result in asset forfeiture as many in this thread were claiming. Now the boogeyman police revenue stream from weed has turned to fines. I'm patiently waiting down the fine breakdowns for a weed arrest and how much the police get from this as these claims are obviously backed up by research and evidence, right OT? This can't be another assumption can it?
Posted by Kvothe
Member since Sep 2016
2073 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:30 am to
I’m here for this. I just moved back to Louisiana after working in the legal commercial industry in Denver for the past 7 years. Put me back to work, baws!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
452735 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:30 am to
quote:

but why in the frick would i want to make it easier on the government to perform searches?

because, in their head, those searches are only used against their perceived out groups, and it's something their in-group won't deal with
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
22872 posts
Posted on 5/10/21 at 10:31 am to
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How are they cops or police departments profiting from this?



Let me count the ways. Civil asset forfeiture. Slave labor pool from locking up non-violent offenders and putting them to work. Daily stipends that prisons receive for housing said non-violent prisoners.
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