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re: LA Federal Unemployment Ends TODAY

Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:52 am to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31844 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:52 am to
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As someone who is responsible for hiring people, I’d have a hell of a lot more respect for someone with odd jobs for the last 18 months than an 18 month gap in work history.


I moved to Houston worried about losing my Louisiana remote job in Louisiana, figured it would be better to be laid off already here than laid off trying to get here. One of the first things I did it make a plan of A,B,C of what I would do when laid off. All of them included getting a job SOMEWHERE. I’d would have stocked at Target before getting unemployment all day. BUT, I have no kids so daycare is not a consideration for me. I realize that changes things. All I have to do is provide for myself. I will always be able to do that.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24868 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:55 am to
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Sure, you can get a job at Subway or Home Depot and beat unemployment but that isn't saying much.


So, he was right.

Get a job you fricking bums.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 7:56 am
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:04 am to
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How old are you? 5? Are you completely oblivious to the last 18 months?



No I am not 5. No I am not "oblivious".

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As someone who is responsible for hiring people, I’d have a hell of a lot more respect for someone with odd jobs for the last 18 months than an 18 month gap in work history.


Since when is any "gap in work history" a deal breaker anyways. Who gives a shite why or why not someone didn't work for 1, 2, 3 or 5 years or whatever? People often come into and out of the workforce for a variety of legitimate reasons. A global pandemic creating a shortage of professional positions is certainly one legitimate one.

Using continuity of employment as a metric to judge a potential hire is so stupid, only an HR person could come up with it. Especially in this economy.

My point is not everybody who is long term unemployed is sitting on their arse playing xbox and living high off the hog.

Even when all of the "stimulus" was full bore it was a shitty wage. State of LA caps out at $6k or so for a year, don't spend it all in one place...

The economy sucks regardless of what Biden says and jobs are scarce in professional settings. Overall uncertainty and disruption in the global supply chain have stalled lots of companies.

Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1715 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:13 am to
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Since when is any "gap in work history" a deal breaker anyways. Who gives a shite why or why not someone didn't work for 1, 2, 3 or 5 years or whatever? People often come into and out of the workforce for a variety of legitimate reasons.


What are some legitimate reasons?
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:21 am to
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What are some legitimate reasons?



What are some not legitimate reasons?
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24868 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:24 am to
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Since when is any "gap in work history" a deal breaker anyways. Who gives a shite why or why not someone didn't work for 1, 2, 3 or 5 years or whatever?


Apparently some that are involved in making hiring decisions.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17344 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:43 am to
Within about a month or so, the long term unemployed will have to start taking those available jobs.
Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5578 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:43 am to
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I moved to Houston worried about losing my Louisiana remote job in Louisiana, figured it would be better to be laid off already here than laid off trying to get here. One of the first things I did it make a plan of A,B,C of what I would do when laid off. All of them included getting a job SOMEWHERE. I’d would have stocked at Target before getting unemployment all day. BUT, I have no kids so daycare is not a consideration for me. I realize that changes things. All I have to do is provide for myself. I will always be able to do that.


Wish more people would have a 3-tiered plan like this. If I'm ever in a foxhole, I want you on my side planning our exit strategy. Good work bro, this is how it's done.
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
17344 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:46 am to
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I would also say it is not a good look on your resume as a engineer to put Arby’s on there.


I hire people every quarter. And I would see someone filling a gap with a job that is “beneath them” as valuable and motivated.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:52 am to
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I hire people every quarter. And I would see someone filling a gap with a job that is “beneath them” as valuable and motivated.




I've hired and fired also chief.

I wouldn't feel the same way.

You people that think "filling a gap" is some type of gold star confuse me. This same company you work for will shitcan you, or anyone, in a heartbeat if it benefits their bottom line.




Posted by Tomatocantender
Boot
Member since Jun 2021
5578 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:53 am to
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I hire people every quarter. And I would see someone filling a gap with a job that is “beneath them” as valuable and motivated.


Y'all are both right. Previous poster is right in the sense that the Arby's thing could triage/box out the applicant from the initial auto adjudicated process before the top 5 hits Goofball's desk, but you're correct in that it depends on the company and how their weeding out process is set up from the jump. Slippery slope on both sides of that windy road.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
31349 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:03 am to
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Who gives a shite why or why not someone didn't work for 1, 2, 3 or 5 years or whatever?

You serious? It’s a huge red flag. I’m about to invest time and money into a hire, I want to know why this person has huge gaps in his employment. Maybe it legitimate reasons like family issues. Maybe not.

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Even when all of the "stimulus" was full bore it was a shitty wage. State of LA caps out at $6k or so for a year, don't spend it all in one place...

At the height of the subsidy unemployment in Louisiana was $847/wk. Extrapolate that to a full year gross income and it’s around $60/yr. And that’s not even including the bulk stimulus payments. If you consider 60 grand a year to be a shitty wage, then please enjoy sitting at the house preserving your dignity.

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The economy sucks regardless of what Biden says and jobs are scarce in professional settings

You aren’t looking hard enough. Or at all for that matter. Engineer jobs all over the place. Hell I had a field engineer job posted for months without serious candidates. There are open positions in the trades for years. Subcontract mechanical and electrical contractors are hiring constantly. I get calls from recruiters at least twice a month looking to fill construction Superintendant positions, have since last fall.

Jesus some people need a reality check.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:17 am to
Double post, see post below.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
The Sticks
Member since Jun 2015
9550 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:23 am to
I'd venture to guess that it takes less money to sit on your arse and do jack shite all day than it does to work and want things. Some don't want to work and don't want much out of life, which unfortunately is a number increasing every day. 22K is a hell of an enabling number versus 0 to motivate these people to live what modicum of life they choose.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:28 am to

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You serious? It’s a huge red flag. I’m about to invest time and money into a hire, I want to know why this person has huge gaps in his employment. Maybe it legitimate reasons like family issues. Maybe not.


Only to someone who is stupid. Red flag for what? The only thing you are trying to find out is if someone was terminated or not. People drop out of the workforce regularly.

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At the height of the subsidy unemployment in Louisiana was $847/wk. Extrapolate that to a full year gross income and it’s around $60/yr. And that’s not even including the bulk stimulus payments. If you consider 60 grand a year to be a shitty wage, then please enjoy sitting at the house preserving your dignity.



All of you people quoting this type of math are totally misinformed.

LA State unemployment is $247 a week max and caps out at $6,200 or so (going by memory). Even if you made $400k the year before you lost your job, that's it.

So once you exhaust the state yearly benefit (takes 25 weeks) then you no longer qualify for ANY federal, NOT ONE DIME. No matter what JBE or Biden says, thats it. No more state OR FEDERAL that year.

Even when fed stimulus was at its max ($600 per week in LA) that is only $847 x 25 weeks which is $21,175 for a year. THAT IS NOT $60k a year.

You are wrong and an idiot.

Now, know it all fricker, tell me how anyone would actually choose to try and live off $21,175 a year gross? Tell me again how that Arby's job at $8-10/hr is something you would sign up for?

If you had a decent job in 2019 you don't even qualify for the bulk payments either.



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You aren’t looking hard enough. Or at all for that matter. Engineer jobs all over the place. Hell I had a field engineer job posted for months without serious candidates. There are open positions in the trades for years. Subcontract mechanical and electrical contractors are hiring constantly. I get calls from recruiters at least twice a month looking to fill construction Superintendant positions, have since last fall.

Jesus some people need a reality check.


My personal situation is none of your fricking business. I can assure you Engineering positions are saturated. One recruiter I spoke with had 58 applicants for one engineering job.

Company I worked for went from 240 people down to 170 in one office. CDI Engineering basically closed when they shut down Convent.

Believe whatever you want. But you are full of shite.

There may come a day when your services are no longer required at your employer. You might learn a thing or two then.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7054 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:29 am to
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That was probably the most money they will make in their entire lives….and the still couldn’t pay rent


They could have. They just didn't have any consequences for not. One tenant of mine is on the clock with the eviction moratorium expiring.

It is so frustrating watching a deadbeat get a new car, nicer than yours and not pay you rent.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:32 am to
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This same company you work for will shitcan you, or anyone, in a heartbeat if it benefits their bottom line.



That’s why you make yourself valuable to the point where firing you would negatively affect the bottom line.

It’s not rocket science, it’s free market economics.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8090 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:34 am to
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That’s why you make yourself valuable to the point where firing you would negatively affect the bottom line.

It’s not rocket science, it’s free market economics.




When volume and workload go down your "value" doesn't matter. The company cannot bill a client for your "value" if they do not have a PO for the work.

Lots of great and valuable people get laid off when volume goes down, especially senior level employees.

Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49153 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:35 am to
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When volume and workload go down your "value" doesn't matter. The company cannot bill a client for your "value" if they do not have a PO for the work.

Lots of great and valuable people get laid off when volume goes down, especially senior level employees.


So they lay off 100% of their employees?

Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44435 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:36 am to
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Lots of great and valuable people get laid off when volume goes down, especially senior level employees.






No, when volume goes down, the dead weight get laid off. Don't be the dead weight.
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