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re: L5-S1 herniated disk

Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:21 pm to
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
48701 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:21 pm to
quote:

The only true cure is surgery.


Not necessarily. Aggressive PT can help in some cases. A fusion is a brutal surgery so I would exhaust all other options if it were me.
Posted by ZULU
Member since Sep 2009
1014 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:30 pm to
Try pain management
Injections sometime help a good bit
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
55785 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:39 pm to
I have stenosis and degenerative disc disease. Live with pain everyday. Fortunately for me, I don't have any sciatic pain. I will not consider surgery unless it gets to the point where I can't walk.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:49 pm to
quote:

At this point the surgery is routine


There are no routine surgeries of any kind, you can die from a multitude of complications, and with any spinal surgery come out worse than you went in. Everything that is listed on the consent form has happened to someone, and occurs more often than you would think.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 10:51 pm
Posted by MSUDawg98
Ravens Flock
Member since Jan 2018
11566 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 10:54 pm to
I've had 3 surgeries and am now fused L3-S1. Microdiskectomy is the likely first surgical step if infections aren't working. Be very very careful after that surgery as literally one slip in those first few months can send you down the road I went on. Single level fusion failed due to a poor OR decision by my surgeon. (Disabled at 27 because of it.) When it comes to disks and your back I've come to the belief that neuro >>> ortho.
Posted by AlextheBodacious
Member since Oct 2020
2452 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34174 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:13 pm to
Before I realized this was a bump I thought we had LucasP back. What a tease
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:19 pm to
I will give you this mega advice from experience. Find the best, the most reputable neurosurgeon(Do not use an Ortho!). Follow his/her advice to the letter. If the neuro recommends surgery get a second opinion. Surgery may be in your future but, do everything sensible to avoid it. Once you have surgery, even if it is the absolute best course of action, you will never, ever be the same.

Good luck.
This post was edited on 8/10/22 at 11:22 pm
Posted by CommieHater
Member since Oct 2021
1005 posts
Posted on 8/10/22 at 11:24 pm to
quote:

if infections aren't working


If your Doc is treating you with "infections", you are doing it wrong
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4764 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 1:17 am to
L4-l5 herniated & pinching the nerves coming out of the spinal cord - inoperable -
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
51410 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:47 am to
Same here, plus a few disc ruptures along the way.

Pilates is a great therapy to reduce pain and increase function.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20026 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 5:53 am to
quote:

Who's your lawyer? (actually, if I know this I can probably answer the first question)

You think lawyers are falsifying MRI reports?
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4064 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 7:56 pm to
Dude probably died of gabapentin overdose.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8156 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Just got MRI back on a problem I have had since March.


Gordon finna eat.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13820 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:17 pm to
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Aggressive PT can help in some cases


Does the PT actually help, or is it the fact that people with back pain improve spontaneously over the course of months post-injury, and it is attributed to the PT. Not saying that PT should not be the first line treatment, just curious if there are any randomly controlled trials showing PT (McKenzie exercises, core strengthening/stabilization) vs. “sham” PT.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

Does the PT actually help, or is it the fact that people with back pain improve spontaneously over the course of months post-injury, and it is attributed to the PT.


There actually was a study that showed most back pain will resolve given enough time,
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4787 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

You think lawyers are falsifying MRI reports?




There are lawyers who refer their clients to certain imaging centers who will put certain language into their reports.
Posted by La Squared
Southwest LA
Member since Feb 2012
516 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

Really worked on strengthening the back muscles without putting pressure on the disc.


What exercises are you doing?

FYI, OP hasn’t posted in 3 years so I don’t think we’re getting an update on his status.
Posted by HarrisonTown
Member since Nov 2019
531 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:06 pm to
Had microdisectomy in 2018.
L4-L5 after mind numbing pain for a couple months.
Pt, drugs, epidural made zero difference.
Couldn't sit, stand, or lay down without intense, constant pain.
Would be nodding out falling asleep but pain would keep me awake.
Basically tried all other options and surgery was only one left.
I'm probably 90% most of the time with IB, some numbness in my foot/lower leg and light pain sometimes.
I'm careful with what I lift, etc.
Absolutely, positively full of gratitude for that surgeon.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 8/11/22 at 9:16 pm to
Not a doctor but I stayed at nice hotel last night. Your disc herniation is almost certainly causing a nerve impingement which is causing your spasms, radiating electrical shock like stuff down your leg etc. The disc is like a jelly donut between the bones that acts like a cushion. As we age they dry out, which is why we shrink as we age. You have a few options before you look at surgical fusion from massage therapy, accu-puncture, PT, muscle relaxers, etc etc. Try them all and hopefully one will work
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