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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Discussion Thread
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:57 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:57 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Yeah but I still think he's better than little binger..
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Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:59 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Yeah but I still think he's better than little binger..
I don’t know how anyone can’t be disgusted by Binger. Lionel Hutz is a better attorney than him.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 2:59 pm to JDPndahizzy
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the prosecution usually close last? Maybe Law and Order just isn't realistic.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:00 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Yeah but I still think he's better than little binger..
Agreed. Binger comes across as an arrogant prick, and he clearly is a liar. He was so over the top with his lying. He would have done much better to tone it down with facts in his favor, instead of making up shite.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:00 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Yeah but I still think he's better than little binger..
Looking at it objectively, I think Binger did a lot better. He laid his argument out clearly and coherently. This guy is just meandering around.
I have no idea how much it will affect the jurors but this guy sounds like you gave some random Packers fan a crash course in the law and the facts of this case and let him loose.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:02 pm to ducktale
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Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't the prosecution usually close last? Maybe Law and Order just isn't realistic.
Prosecution gets to rebut the defense closing last. They've agreed, state gets 30 minutes after this to rebut.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:02 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Looking at it objectively, I think Binger did a lot better. He laid his argument out clearly and coherently. This guy is just meandering around.
What dimension did you just happen to fall out of where up is down and left is right?
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:04 pm to OMLandshark
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What dimension did you just happen to fall out of where up is down and left is right?
It's not about what side I think is correct, it's about the delivery of the arguments. The bald guy is a freakin superstar, I have no idea why the defense didn't unleash him on the closing argument.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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Looking at it objectively, I think Binger did a lot better. He laid his argument out clearly and coherently. This guy is just meandering around.
It is not over yet, but I agree that prosecution presentation has been much more precise with better presentation.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Diseasefreeforall
Purely from a jury trial chops/skills perspective, Binger's closing was better. This isn't a very compelling close, especially for a case of this magnitude.
But there is a reasonable chance that Binger's performance is somewhat irrelevant because the jury already hates him or doesn't trust him (which is also a trial skills issue, of course).
But there is a reasonable chance that Binger's performance is somewhat irrelevant because the jury already hates him or doesn't trust him (which is also a trial skills issue, of course).
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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The bald guy is a freakin superstar,
Yeah, not gonna lie I was hoping he'd give closing...I thought that decision was a no-brainer.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:07 pm to Diseasefreeforall
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It's not about what side I think is correct, it's about the delivery of the arguments. The bald guy is a freakin superstar, I have no idea why the defense didn't unleash him on the closing argument.
Apparently Richards sounds like a local, which would really help.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:11 pm to Jcorye1
He's not the most organized guy on the planet, but I think part of that is for show too. An intern needs to show him page breaks though, Jesus.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:12 pm to Jcorye1
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Apparently Richards sounds like a local, which would really help.
Yeah, I don’t see how he’s even in the same stratosphere with Binger. Binger’s closing was the worst I’ve ever seen.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:13 pm to Jcorye1
The tempo and organization of this is bad. I do think he's approachable/relatable, which is ideal, but you don't want the jury to struggle to follow your argument.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:14 pm to Pettifogger
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Purely from a jury trial chops/skills perspective, Binger's closing was better.
He aimed a gun at them. That alone would piss me off to be determined to make sure he loses. I can’t imagine the jury having anything but the most animosity towards the prosecution.
This post was edited on 11/15/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:15 pm to Pettifogger
I'm not a lawyer, but I'd be pretty mad if someone pointed a gun at me. I'm biased, but Binger just comes off as a prick.
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:17 pm to Jcorye1
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someone pointed a gun at me.
Did he actually point the gun at the jury??
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:18 pm to JDPndahizzy
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Did he actually point the gun at the jury??
Yup
Posted on 11/15/21 at 3:20 pm to OMLandshark
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He aimed a gun at them
and had his finger on the trigger. on what planet is that ever something you do? what an fool.
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