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re: Kyle Rittenhouse Trial Discussion Thread
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:09 am to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:09 am to tgrbaitn08
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Oh the horror...he woke up at 3:30 am and couldnt go back to sleep until 5 am?
I wake up at 4 am every morning and dont get back to sleep at all
It might be the juror who doesn't have a job like the rest of us...
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Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:10 am to ducktale
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Judge should be disbarred for not sequestering. My god, what a clusterfrick.
This is mistrial with prejudice 6,000 times over.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:13 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:11 am to Jon Ham
quote:It is to me as well.
It is a unique set of facts but to me it’s clear.
quote:Unless your perspective is different and you couldn’t tell he only shot one person and was no longer a threat simply because he was moving in the direction of the police. I’m not saying I think that is true, I just see where one could arguably conclude that.
It is not reasonable to believe someone is an active shooter when they shot one person, are walking to the police, and are not targeting anyone else.
quote:No, not anytime, but sometimes that’s exactly what the result could be. Two people with a reasonable belief that the other is acting improperly and an imminent threat to life. One or both may have formed a reasonable belief based on the circumstances and one or both could ultimately be wrong about the perceived threat.
If that were a “reasonable belief” then anytime one exercised their constitutional right to defend oneself with a gun it would be permissible for anyone to attack that person under the “active shooter” belief.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:16 am to WDE24
You better be damn confident that the person you are about to attack is either an imminent threat to yourself or others. If you’re not damn confident, then there’s a really good chance your use of force is not reasonable.
Kyle = was being directly physically attacked when he used force.
Those who attacked Kyle = were not being attacked, did not see Kyle targeting others, were guessing he was an “active shooter.”
Kyle = was being directly physically attacked when he used force.
Those who attacked Kyle = were not being attacked, did not see Kyle targeting others, were guessing he was an “active shooter.”
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:25 am to WDE24
Reasonable implies objectively reasonable. Anything can be reasonable subjectively.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:35 am to ducktale
Someone on Rekieta just said theres a tweet that jury is coming back with verdict within the hour.
We shall see.
Posobeic saying he hasnt heard that yet.
We shall see.
Posobeic saying he hasnt heard that yet.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:36 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:36 am to Sherman Klump
Gotta get one more lunch.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:37 am to LSUBoo
Place your bets boys. I'm saying not guilty all charges
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:37 am to Ingeniero
God I hope so. If they convict this kid, it will make me sick to my stomach.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:37 am to ducktale
quote:I understand
Reasonable implies objectively reasonable.
quote:I don’t think you understand my posts.
Anything can be reasonable subjectively.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:38 am to SCLibertarian
Unforunatey, thinking guilty on all accounts. The people that are going to convict in this trial don't give in - ever.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:39 am to Ingeniero
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Place your bets boys. I'm saying not guilty all charges
I'm leaning the other way. If there are ideologues on the jury, they aren't backing down.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:39 am to WDE24
Your posts are arguing that someone could have a reasonable belief that Kyle was an active shooter because of things they didn't see. That's bogus.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:41 am to Sherman Klump
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Unforunatey, thinking guilty on all accounts. The people that are going to convict in this trial don't give in - ever.
Hopefully the ones that can see he's innocent didn't either. If I'm on a jury in a case like this, I'm more likely to budge toward not guilty than guilty.
ETA: If I'm betting, I'm really betting on absolutely nothing happening in the next hour.
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:43 am
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:42 am to Sherman Klump
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Someone on Rekieta just said theres a tweet that jury is coming back with verdict within the hour.
We shall see.
Posobeic saying he hasnt heard that yet.
Am I the only one who thinks that these "leaks" that keep coming out about the jury are part of the problem?
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:43 am to LegendInMyMind
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JUST IN - Rittenhouse verdict expected within the next hour - media reports
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:44 am to Sherman Klump
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Unforunatey, thinking guilty on all accounts. The people that are going to convict in this trial don't give in - ever.
Anyone who knows Kyle is innocent and convicts him because they’re spineless pussies deserves to be ripped apart by feral dogs.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm leaning the other way. If there are ideologues on the jury, they aren't backing down.
You wouldn’t back down though, would you Roger? I think both sides are capable of being equally as passionate here.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:47 am to OMLandshark
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You wouldn’t back down though, would you Roger? I think both sides are capable of being equally as passionate here.
It’s one thing to be passionate and have the facts on your side. It’s another thing to be passionate and ignore reality.
Posted on 11/19/21 at 11:47 am to OMLandshark
Everyone going to court room now.
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