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re: Kirk Herbstreit slams Travel Ball culture

Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:28 am to
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:28 am to
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mentally disabilities
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:29 am to
Sports are just more technical now than they once were. Specializing early gives you an advantage…if the focus is always increasing technical skill and strength and not just winning. The business of it all has created insane competition levels so you have to figure out where you fit in…are you the best kid in the city, state, country? Just gotta go compete and see. You wanna be the best in the country…you’re going to sacrifice.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:29 am to
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Specializing early gives you an advantage


Definitely debatable
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:30 am to
With old data, maybe.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:35 am to
My son already says he jsut wants to play golf. I’m not letting him do that yet. I’ll let him at 12. I talked to a few golf buddies that played tour events and they said that’s plenty early enough

He does well on the little US kids tour he plays but there are kids that only play golf and take multiple lessons a week that he absolutely can’t compete with. I would think though that’s just making them the best 9 year old, it doesn’t necessarily matter as between ages 12-14 he would catch them if he truly was better

No way to truly know though
Posted by cajungoalie
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:36 am to
There's a couple ways to look at it...Wife and I loved travel ball, and my kids loved travel ball. We scheduled tournaments in Orange Beach, Pigeon Forge, Cooperstown, Broken Bow, Dallas etc. Played Alex Box several summers, USM, ULL, Rice, and many other college parks which is amazing for a 13 year old, We kept the team together , with kids who were decent ball players and had good character, and their parents who were awesome to hang out with. We may have lost more than we won some seasons because we weren't chasing the best kids that may have been available in the off season, but I promise you our kids loved every minute of it, and so did we. Yes it was expensive, yes sometimes it got in the way, but most weekends were spent with our kids..in a fun town, eating out and cutting up with folks we loved. What is the problem with that? Both our kids played high school ball and that was the end of it, and travel ball helped with that. We never got lessons on the side, we let our kids earn what they got by the work they put in at practice, and they were both successful. No college ball, and that was never a goal as we all were realistic about their talents. We all just loved the game and it created some amazing memories. I wouldn't trade one minute of it. I get whay its not for some folks Sorry Kirk, you are an elitest, and get why you didn't have the same experience we did..God forbid you have fun with other non-elitest folks who love their kids. Why anyone would care what this sniveling weak minded liberal cuck would say is beyond me.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:37 am to
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So, 38,850 NCAA baseball players and 100% of them are travel ball kids? Interesting...


prolly close to 98% played some form of travel after 12u and prolly 80% played 12u or before.

you do understand you cant even make a decent HS team without playing travel now right? there are a few leagues here and there that are decent in some of the very large metro areas, but other than that less than 5% of leagues...the above holds true.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:37 am to
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He does well on the little US kids tour he plays but there are kids that only play golf and take multiple lessons a week that he absolutely can’t compete with. I would think though that’s just making them the best 9 year old, it doesn’t necessarily matter as between ages 12-14 he would catch them if he truly was better


A guy just won a pro event that played one year of college golf and had a scoring average of 79

Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:37 am to
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Why do you think that means most teams or most players play every single tournament?



bc my son is 21 years old and played travel ball at a higher than normal level from 7-14...I've seen more than enough to know the D3, JUCO and NAIA offers just werent worth it after being down to play in the DR, CUBA, PR and Cooperstown, knowing as a middle infielder he was a dime a dozen and didnt have a chance.......he chose an education instead and will be graduating from LSU in the spring and off to MED school........but I wish your little coach pitch travel ball team wins ALL the rings
Posted by profdillweed
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:39 am to
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The largest organization in Louisiana doesn’t let any team play from November thru March. Not allowed for their youth teams

They also have to finish before July and can’t start again until September




Thats literally what I said....and the Knights are a joke
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:40 am to
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and the Knights are a joke


The fact that there are “organizations” and people are making careers out of coaching 9 year old is a joke and, honestly, disgusting
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:41 am to
No shite.
Posted by Gaston
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:42 am to
I’d get him the best training absolutely possible…then it’s on him to implement it through practice. My son was professionally coached in the 8th grade…and years working that form paid off in the big competitions…or it was just natural talent…who could ever know? I wasn’t going to risk it though.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:42 am to
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Don’t tell the Lake Charles guys this. They think you need to be in t-ball travel ball and have a lifting and stretching routine at age 3 if you want to play at Barbe


nobody does tball travel in LC and the LC teams play way way less games than the other areas especially around you in the houston area. usually 50-60% less games than the houston area teams

but most in LC do start travel in coach pitch and almost every good kid is gone from rec at 9u.

and you understand that barbe has almost 2k students and will usually have 50 trying out, all travel kids and they kept the most ever this year with 18 and they will prolly cut 6+ of those after soph year right?

SH kept 25, the whole reason Barbe and SH kept so many this year is because they are doing freshman teams to go play lower level varsity and jv teams.

in general you need to be top 10-12 in your class to make the Barbe, SH team

even worse where you are with tomball, pearland, woodlands etc. They will cut 10+ kids who have been playing major level travel ball because they will have 100+ at tryouts.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:42 am to
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and people are making careers out of coaching 9 year old is a joke and, honestly, disgusting
The coaches are a dad volunteering for all the teams I know of
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111496 posts
Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:43 am to
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and the Knights are a joke
I mean, the entirety of Catholic high baseball are knights

They certainly aren’t a joke
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 8:44 am
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:44 am to
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I mean, the entirety of Catholic high baseball are knights


Damn, really excited for those future Kappa Sigs
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:44 am to
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guy just won a pro event that played one year of college golf and had a scoring average of 79
I don’t think we should use outliers to try and make a rule

What percentage of the pga tour do you think was still playing multiple sports past 10? Past 12? 14? Etc

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:45 am to
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Damn, really excited for those future Kappa Sigs
Or lsu and mlb players

ETA: and when did Catholic guys stop being Lamda Chi?
This post was edited on 8/11/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by profdillweed
Gulf of America
Member since Apr 2025
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Posted on 8/11/25 at 8:45 am to
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I mean, the entirety of Catholic high baseball are knights



No they aren't...they go to Traction
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