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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:24 pm to
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no interviewing of guests in the house with a dead guy in the front yard. Just a parade of morons.


Even though one of them came out of the house. Stood outside. Asked a question. Got an answer. Then proceeded to go back in and shut the door.

Nah, no need to interview him
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:25 pm to
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You know that if they found tire tracks in the yard it would be a major part of this case.

You know what, I think you are right. So in your opinion if there were no tire marks in the grass, then that proves that she couldn't have possibly hit John and this case should be over? And you think all of the defense team and their experts are too dumb to think of that? You should send them an email and let them know that you have groundbreaking information that would clear her name. I'm sure they would appreciate it.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 2:28 pm
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6960 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:30 pm to
Jesus dude.. I'm not trying to fight with you. I simply stated that backing up at 24 mph in a slight curve is hard.. You do you..
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 2:34 pm to
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Jesus dude.. I'm not trying to fight with you. I simply stated that backing up at 24 mph in a slight curve is hard.. You do you..

You seamed very upset in your original post. You even used 7 exclamation points. All I said was that I think you were thinking way to much into it. It's likely an argument that wouldn't help the defense for whatever reason. If it would help them, I'm sure they would have used it.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15062 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:30 pm to
If the CW's new theory is that John O'Keefe kicked the taillight before Karen backed into him, I'm going to laugh the entire time this "expert" from Aperture testifies.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/6/25 at 3:50 pm to
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LSBoosie
Calm down.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 4:30 pm to
I'm good. I just don't think it's necessary to state that there's no way any of this happened just because you looked at a Google Maps pictured and decided you solved the case. There are legitimate experts hired by the feds that say his injuries don't line up with being hit by a car. Focus on that instead of the fact that there is a very slight curve in the road.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:34 pm to
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I just don't think it's necessary to state that there's no way any of this happened just because you looked at a Google Maps pictured and decided you solved the case.
Let it go... Let it go.... Let it go.....!
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22999 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:47 pm to
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I'm good. I just don't think it's necessary to state that there's no way any of this happened just because you looked at a Google Maps pictured and decided you solved the case. There are legitimate experts hired by the feds that say his injuries don't line up with being hit by a car. Focus on that instead of the fact that there is a very slight curve in the road.

To be fair the commonwealth is arguing that her BAC would’ve been 0.14-0.28 at the time she allegedly hit John. If she was that drunk there is a 0.01% chance she went 24mph for 70 feet in a curve to hit him without going into the yard. It’s not believable.

None of that matters because she never hit him at all but it’s not a bad point to make.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:54 pm to
Once again, these interviews are a bad look for Karen. Her saying that when she found him the next morning “he’s roughly where I left him” is a bad look while proclaiming that he 100% went in the house.
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
22999 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 5:58 pm to
I watched all of the first trial and I’m firmly in the camp that she is innocent so I’m admittedly biased but I don’t see that the clips are that bad, particularly the one you referenced in which the commonwealth cut her off mid-sentence. The entire point of that statement was how small the yard was and at the time she did not think that people John was friends with would’ve done that to him.

ETA: do you find it suspicious that the clip literally cut her off mid-sentence?
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 6:00 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:08 pm to
"We had no reason to search the house" bwahahaha
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:09 pm to
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Once again, these interviews are a bad look for Karen
The frick does that matter? Is there some prescription you forgot to fill?
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:16 pm to
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I watched all of the first trial and I’m firmly in the camp that she is innocent so I’m admittedly biased but I don’t see that the clips are that bad, particularly the one you referenced in which the commonwealth cut her off mid-sentence. The entire point of that statement was how small the yard was and at the time she did not think that people John was friends with would’ve done that to him.

I understand the point and I have said many times that I believe she should not be found guilty. But I’m also looking at it from a jurors’ perspective who doesn’t know anything about the case. If you have a woman who is saying she didn’t hit him because she watched him go inside that house then she willingly goes on tv and says that she found him “roughly where she left him” that’s a bad look for her. It’s just the fact that she didn’t have to do these interviews and they have been shown repeatedly throughout the trial. I have no clue what kind of effect they will have on the jury, but all it takes is for one of them to get rubbed the wrong way and they could screw her over.
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ETA: do you find it suspicious that the clip literally cut her off mid-sentence?

Of course. The commonwealth is going to try to cut the clip any way they can to benefit themselves.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:17 pm to
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The frick does that matter? Is there some prescription you forgot to fill?

What do you mean “the frick does it matter”? If those videos influence just one juror to say that she guilty it matters a ton. Why did that comment upset you so much? I’m saying the same thing that many professional lawyers (all pro Karen Read) have said.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:44 pm to
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If those videos influence just one juror to say that she guilty it matters a ton
If they have seen them, they shouldn't be on the jury. You're really more unstable today than normal. Please refill.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15062 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 6:51 pm to
I’m not sure why you don’t think the jurors would have seen these videos but they are not good for Karen.

In fact I think the videos from Karen’s interviews that Hank keeps playing at spots throughout the trial are the best evidence the state has.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
87342 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:01 pm to
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I’m not sure why you don’t think the jurors would have seen these videos
During voir dire, they should have been asked and disqualified if they saw them.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:04 pm to
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If they have seen them, they shouldn't be on the jury. You're really more unstable today than normal. Please refill.

I don’t know if you are confused or something. I’m talking about interviews that they are currently showing in court.
This post was edited on 5/6/25 at 7:10 pm
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
18779 posts
Posted on 5/6/25 at 7:06 pm to
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I’m not sure why you don’t think the jurors would have seen these videos but they are not good for Karen.

In fact I think the videos from Karen’s interviews that Hank keeps playing at spots throughout the trial are the best evidence the state has.

100% agree with you. It just feels like they unnecessarily gave ammo to the side that didn’t have much ammo in the first place.
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