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re: Karen Read murder trial - Not guilty on main - guilty of OUI(DUI) only

Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:42 am to
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44501 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:42 am to

Anyone have a link to watch the trial today? I have a ton of chores to get done before family gets in for a visit and this would be perfect to watch/listen to while working.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86146 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:49 am to
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I have to ask if this prosecutor actually believes his case.

I feel like he does not, but is being forced by the DA.

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This guy is either an idiot/incompetent or he is going along with some kind of coverup IMO.
I believe the cabal is fine with a not guilty finding. I believe they believe it will all go away one way or the other.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14975 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 8:50 am to
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Prosecutors routinely rely on LEO for evidence in their cases and they are USUALLY reliable and trustworthy. I can see the prosecutor simply trusting the local cops' version of the facts and going to trial, only to see the whole thing unravel in real time.


I see what you are saying but in this case how did the dude not just look at the Injuries to Officer O'Keefe and ask "are you sure these injuries are from being hit by a vehicle".
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14975 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:02 am to
O'Keefe had a laceration on his tongue
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
44501 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:05 am to
Found a link for trial

LINK
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14975 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:15 am to
The state rested their case after 29 days, and IMO they proved nothing.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 9:18 am
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13032 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:17 am to
This case is not going away at the conclusion of the criminal trial. There will be a YUUGE civil trial against law enforcement for trying to frame Reid.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
18535 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:21 am to
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Prosecutors routinely rely on LEO for evidence in their cases and they are USUALLY reliable and trustworthy. I can see the prosecutor simply trusting the local cops' version of the facts and going to trial, only to see the whole thing unravel in real time.
Its entirely possible that the prosecutor is getting hammered with new info every day...


Prosecutor's office is in on it or is being forced by someone to move forward. They had clear evidence that provides substantial doubt Karen Read is guilty. It was public BEFORE the trial and they still went forward.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6247 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:24 am to
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Her BAC was 93 at 9 the next morning.

Explain this to me like I’m a child

I assume he means the BAC was .093 at 9am the next morning. Which means she drank a lot of alcohol the night before
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14975 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:30 am to
Jackson giving argument for directed verdict. Can't wait to hear Lally on rebuttal.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13032 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 9:34 am to
You may be right, but Turtleboy was likely not viewed as being more reliable than the LEOs.
But consider this: if the DA/ State's Attorney refuses to prosecute Reid when the cops are insisting that she killed their long-time colleague, the risk is that the prosecution is not going to be able to have full cooperation from the cops on any future investigation/ trial. That's a problem.
I'm not saying the prosecution isn't fully in bed with cops, but I can see where they would have pursued a case with holes in it, if a cop killer might otherwise get away.
However, the cops are trying to frame Reid and she is going to get a massvie judgment against them in a civil trial.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11711 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:02 am to
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f the DA/ State's Attorney refuses to prosecute Reid when the cops are insisting that she killed their long-time colleague, the risk is that the prosecution is not going to be able to have full cooperation from the cops on any future investigation/ trial. That's a problem.


This is dumb. You think that if they don't prosecute a crime that clearly didn't happen that the cops won't solve any crimes anymore? Do you realize how dumb that theory is? The only way cops get to actually put bad guys away is to have them prosecuted. They aren't gonna let criminals that are potentially dangerous to themselves walk because the DA refused to prosecute a women that has at BEST a weak case against her and at WORST is clearly being framed.

My point is the DA isn't being strong armed by some back the blue BS, they are in on it.
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 10:11 am
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6009 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:05 am to
That the state is sticking to its guns just show you how corrupt Massachusetts is.

It was bad when I left it is on steroids now.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6009 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:08 am to
Any coroner will tell you that when a body is hit by a car it results in bruised fists and dog bite marks on the forearms.

Also, you always find more evidence in a crime seen a second time around after it snows, especially hair samples.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14975 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:25 am to
This trial just gets better and better. Lally is cross examining a snow plow driver and it seems that Lally is proving LEO's made false reports of the snow plow drivers statements.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9507 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:29 am to
Best stream - Andrea Burkhart!

Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14154 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:39 am to
Snowplow driver seemed very nervous and a little simple
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9507 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:41 am to
He is not being slimy and evasive like the keystone cops the CW put on the stand.
Posted by TFS4E
Washington DC
Member since Nov 2008
14154 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:50 am to
This physician has insane credentials
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
11711 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:24 am to
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Snowplow driver seemed very nervous and a little simple


I don't mean to be rude to snow plow drivers but I don't think many of them have Ivy league degrees
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