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Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:39 pm to Gris Gris
Is the only evidence of this Jackson's affidavit? Did the jury not mark the verdict slip?
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:40 pm to jbgleason
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Are there any articles on that part?
It was in the trial.
Proctor's report stated that he impounded Karen Read's Lexus at 5:30pm. A video was produced as evidence that Karen's Lexus was actually impounded at 4:15pm. The first pieces of taillight were found at the scene at 5:30pm.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:43 pm to AlxTgr
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Did the jury not mark the verdict slip?
seems like the juror may not have understood they could fill out the verdict slip on some of the counts but hang on others.
Posted on 7/8/24 at 1:51 pm to AlxTgr
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Is the only evidence of this Jackson's affidavit? Did the jury not mark the verdict slip?
Sounds like it. None of the articles I've read address whether the jury provided an executed verdict slip to the judge. The information allegedly came from "unsolicited communications" from 3 jurors to the defense.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:27 am to Gris Gris
Four jurors have now come forward re: the not guilty findings.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 11:55 am to AlxTgr
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Four jurors have now come forward
To be fair two jurors directly talked to the attorneys, and two indirectly came forward.
I have a bit of a problem with only finding not guilty on counts 1 & 3 but not 2. They all require KR to hit JO with her Lexus. Based on the evidence introduced in the trial KR DID NOT hit JO with her Lexus.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:01 pm to civiltiger07
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Based on the evidence introduced in the trial KR DID NOT hit JO with her Lexus.
Thats my issue. How did the prosecution prove beyond a reasonable doubt that JO was hit by ANY car, let alone Karen Read's car?
Only 2 things were proven during this trial:
1) JO died.
2) it was snowing.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:12 pm to CatfishJohn
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I think the misconduct is about the talking trash piece, but there is absolutely reason to believe he's in cahoots with law enforcement to frame her. This case is absurd. Almost feels like one of those cases that if the world media wasn't watching, she'd be fricked.
What makes you think they framed her. There was no evidence taken from his phone that indicated that. Multiple police officers woukd have had to be in on it and they were drinking heavily that night. You think they could be that careful drunk to pull this off and everyone get their story straight?
Experts testified his dna was on the taillight. And his injuries were consistent with a pedestrian being hit by a vehicle.
It’s more likely she was just really drunk and possibly angry and hit him. Only God knows if it was on purpose or an accident and she didn’t know from being intoxicated.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 12:13 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:17 pm to Townedrunkard
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Experts testified his dna was on the taillight.
His DNA being on his girlfiends vehicle is not surprising at all. Its expected.
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And his injuries were consistent with a pedestrian being hit by a vehicle.
What injuries were consistent with a vehicle strike?
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It’s more likely she was just really drunk and possibly angry and hit him. Only God knows if it was on purpose or an accident and she didn’t know from being intoxicated.
based on physics it is not possible for JO's injuries to be caused by a vehicle strike and being relocated 30ft. Especially in the manner the prosecution proposed during the trail.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:22 pm to AlxTgr
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Four jurors have now come forward re: the not guilty findings.
It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:32 pm to AlxTgr
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Rumour/theory I read somewhere else this week was to the effect that Colin was a drug dealer, and the victim had reported drug activity in the neighborhood.
Just saw a X post about a freedom of information act involving a video John O'keefe provided to detective Kevin Albert.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:34 pm to Gris Gris
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It's going to be interesting to see where this goes.
If it's truly 12-0 for not guilty of murder surely the state isn't stupid enough to try her for that again? Their best argument would be to argue that she hit him but she was too drunk to realize what she did. Arguing the stupid murder angle is probably what caused them to have a mistrial in the first place.
Posted on 7/10/24 at 12:42 pm to Townedrunkard
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What makes you think they framed her
1) The inconsistency of when the car was impounded and when it was reported to be impounded.
2) Finding zero evidence the morning of the incident but somehow going back several times after the car is in police possession and miraculously finding "evidence".
3) Never even looking in the Albert's home or questioning them at all.
4) The video of the car inspection that was purposefully mirrored. You know it was on purpose because someone flipped the image and took the time to make sure the time stamp was put back as normal.
5) Allowing the Alberts to inspect the car once in possession.
Thats just off the top of my head.
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his injuries were consistent with a pedestrian being hit by a vehicle.
It was actually testified that his injuries were very inconsistent with being hit by a car. Only injuries to the head and forearm? No road rash or abdominal injuries or leg injuries at all?
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It’s more likely she was just really drunk and possibly angry and hit him
This is the biggest thing, "more likely" isn't grounds to convict someone of a crime, Its prove BEYOND a reasonable doubt. I am not saying the cops 100% covered this up. Maybe they are really just terrible at their jobs but in no way shape or form did they prove beyond a doubt that he was hit by a car. How can she be guilty of anything if they can't even prove he was hit by any car, let alone HER car.
This post was edited on 7/10/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 7/17/24 at 10:55 am to Bert Macklin FBI
A different judge will be presiding over the hearing on the defense motion on Monday. I have read conflicting reasons as to why.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 8:10 am to AlxTgr
Will a new trial date be set today?
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:08 pm to civiltiger07
Oral arguments on mistrial to be in aug. 9th
And new trial date is on Jan. 27th.
And new trial date is on Jan. 27th.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 1:26 pm to civiltiger07
Reporter discussing her conversation with a juror.
This post was edited on 7/22/24 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:19 pm to AlxTgr
How can 9 people on the jury vote guilty for the lesser included offense of manslaughter? That's absolutely insane given the evidence presented.
Posted on 7/22/24 at 2:28 pm to SCLibertarian
I really don't get it.
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