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Just came to a revelation: students/athletes attitudes haven't changed
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:38 pm
I'm a young teacher and coach and I was talking to a colleague about how so many of our students just don't care about their grades. We both made the comment that we would never imagined straight up not doing classwork or not trying on a test/quiz knowing we would get a bad grade. He made the comment that it's just a different culture and attitude with students today.
I joked that we sound like old men and then it hit me, students and high school athletes attitudes have ALWAYS been like this, it's just the people with those attitudes don't go into teaching or coaching.
Teachers/coaches/ect... we're the kids with the positive attitudes who worked hard and cared about their grades and that's why it boggles their minds when "kids today" don't care
I joked that we sound like old men and then it hit me, students and high school athletes attitudes have ALWAYS been like this, it's just the people with those attitudes don't go into teaching or coaching.
Teachers/coaches/ect... we're the kids with the positive attitudes who worked hard and cared about their grades and that's why it boggles their minds when "kids today" don't care
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:40 pm to Tiger1242
quote:Yea, they get better degrees and jobs, like a plant operator.
I joked that we sound like old men and then it hit me, students and high school athletes attitudes have ALWAYS been like this, it's just the people with those attitudes don't go into teaching or coaching.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:42 pm to Tiger1242
OK,,, great ,, so I an stop worrying about this ?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:44 pm to Tiger1242
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Teachers/coaches/ect... we're the kids with the positive attitudes who worked hard and cared about their grades
I can appreciate what you're saying, but kids who get good grades don't go into coaching.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:48 pm to RadTiger
Well... I got good grades and went into coaching so
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:49 pm to RadTiger
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I can appreciate what your saying, but kids who get good grades don't go into coaching.
Well that's a blanket statement that is obviously false. A lot of smart people that I went to school with could have been doctors or lawyers, but they decided to be coaches and teachers.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:54 pm to Real Pirate
quote:
Well that's a blanket statement that is obviously false. A lot of smart people that I went to school with could have been doctors or lawyers, but they decided to be coaches and teachers.
bullshite.
They took an easier route than medical school. AKA they didn't have the work ethic.
This is assuming you are being truthful when it comes to their intelligence.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:55 pm to Tiger1242
I know some successful people that didn't care about grades in school.
There are a variety of different types of intelligence and one of our education systems biggest flaws is trying to lump kids into groups based on grades instead of trying to appeal to their strengths.
You sound like you fit the mold of the above.
There are a variety of different types of intelligence and one of our education systems biggest flaws is trying to lump kids into groups based on grades instead of trying to appeal to their strengths.
You sound like you fit the mold of the above.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:55 pm to Real Pirate
Well a lot of the smart people I went to school with became doctors, lawyers, investment bankers, programmers, businessmen, engineers, and scientists. Very few became coaches and teachers. But that's just my experience
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:56 pm to Tiger1242
quote:if you made good grades in school, why are you teaching?
Posted by Tiger1242
I'm a young teacher and coach and I was talking to a colleague about how so many of our students just don't care about their grades. We both made the comment that we would never imagined straight up not doing classwork or not trying on a test/quiz knowing we would get a bad grade. He made the comment that it's just a different culture and attitude with students today.
I joked that we sound like old men and then it hit me, students and high school athletes attitudes have ALWAYS been like this, it's just the people with those attitudes don't go into teaching or coaching.
Teachers/coaches/ect... we're the kids with the positive attitudes who worked hard and cared about their grades and that's why it boggles their minds when "kids today" don't care
quote:
I know some successful people that didn't care about grades in school. There are a variety of different types of intelligence and one of our education systems biggest flaws is trying to lump kids into groups based on grades instead of trying to appeal to their strengths. You sound like you fit the mold of the above.
This I can agree with
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:57 pm to magildachunks
quote:
bullshite.
They took an easier route than medical school. AKA they didn't have the work ethic.
This is assuming you are being truthful when it comes to their intelligence.
this is the shittiest attitude ever. holy cow. get over yourself.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:59 pm to magildachunks
How old are you?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:59 pm to stout
I think you're misunderstabdung what I'm saying. I'm not saying that all smart people that tried in school become teachers, lots and lots of smart people aren't teachers. I'm saying that people who fricked around in school and generally didn't give a shite don't become teachers
Posted on 1/22/15 at 5:59 pm to magildachunks
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They took an easier route than medical school. AKA they didn't have the work ethic.
Yea this fits the bill for the majority of people I know that became teachers. It was the easiest way to get a job and the easiest job they could find. They were smart but fairly lazy otherwise because being book smart came so natural to them they never had to work at it and didn't learn a work ethic.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:00 pm to magildachunks
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bullshite.
They took an easier route than medical school. AKA they didn't have the work ethic.
No, the guy that is specifically coming to mind is now a coach at Neville High School in Monroe. He was a good bit older than me, but he hung around my older sister a bunch, so I knew him pretty well. If I remember correctly, he scored over a 30 on his ACT. I know he was in Beta club, honors classes, and all that jazz. He loved sports and always wanted to be a coach. I'm not saying every coach is smart, but to say every coach is dumb is pretty stupid.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:03 pm to stout
quote:
Yea this fits the bill for the majority of people I know that became teachers. It was the easiest way to get a job and the easiest job they could find. They were smart but fairly lazy otherwise because being book smart came so natural to them they never had to work at it and didn't learn a work ethic.
That's not true in 6 out of 8 cases I can recall off the top of my head. A really good friend of mine wanted to be an elementary school teacher. Poor work ethic is the opposite of this girl. She wasn't a genius, but she was a B+/A- student that busted her arse for those grades.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:03 pm to stout
I legitimately just love coaching so that's why I got into it, I like teaching too. Look out for me as a stud college coach in the future 
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 6:04 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:08 pm to Tiger1242
whoa dude
Posted on 1/22/15 at 6:11 pm to Tiger1242
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I legitimately just love coaching so that's why I got into it
I thought I wanted to coach at one time too and was in school for it my first two years. I then switched to mechanical engineering and am still a few semesters and some change shy of graduating 14 years later lol.
I started a business in college and never looked back.
FWIW I was the very definition of a jock that didn't care about grades in HS but still wanted to coach which is why I think your assumption of this is silly. I did just enough to get by and didn't start caring until college.
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