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re: June 12, 2025: Air India 787 Dreamliner crashes in the city of Ahmedabad
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:32 pm to jizzle6609
Posted on 7/9/25 at 1:32 pm to jizzle6609
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It’s 2025, I would not think a commercial airliner being fueled with the WRONG fuel as even a possible reason for 270 people to die
Have you worked with H1Bs? Other than doctors, those are the best India have to offer. Who do you think is doing ground work at Indian airports, maintaining their railways, etc.? People too incapable to be H1Bs, and that's a pretty damn low bar.
This post was edited on 7/9/25 at 1:33 pm
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Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:42 am to HeadCall
Seeing comments from pilots that these switches would not be toggled on accident that it would be intentional. Could possibly be another pilot suicide.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 9:43 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 9:51 am to redstick13
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Could possibly be another pilot suicide.
That's what I think.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:17 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Could possibly be another pilot suicide.
That's what I think.
that's kinda been swept under the rug by the YT commenters that I see,
but it's more plausible than bad fuel, I think. Birds were ruled out. bad fuel would affect more than one plane, wouldn't it? supposedly you can't take off in the 787 with incorrect flaps.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:21 am to LemmyLives
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Who do you think is doing ground work at Indian airports, maintaining their railways, etc.? People too incapable to be H1Bs, and that's a pretty damn low bar.
Can confirm. About to board a flight in Delhi right now. RIP in peace to me baws.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:22 am to billjamin
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About to board a flight in Delhi right now. RIP in peace to me baws.
RIP
in peace
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 11:24 am
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:23 am to aTmTexas Dillo
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Could possibly be another pilot suicide.
I cannot think of any other reason the switches would be turned off.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:28 am to billjamin
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Can confirm. About to board a flight in Delhi right now. RIP in peace to me baws.
Don't forget to bring your deodorant. It's hard to find over there.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:47 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Air Current
Article states they could be switched off (at least momentarily?) as part of the manual process to restart the engine(s). So possible they were attempting a restart?
Article states they could be switched off (at least momentarily?) as part of the manual process to restart the engine(s). So possible they were attempting a restart?
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Those fuel control switches have two positions, RUN and CUTOFF, and are only moved on the ground during engine start and shutdown at the end of a normal flight — or if an engine needs to be manually shut down or restarted by the crew in the event of an engine failure in any phase of flight.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 11:47 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Don't forget to bring your deodorant. It's hand to find over there.
I’m headed home but I carry an extra travel size one in my carry on just in case. Also hard to find, mouth wash. You would have thought I was asking for heroine.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:09 pm to billjamin
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Can confirm. About to board a flight in Delhi right now. RIP in peace to me baws.
Part of the pre flight briefing should be the proper use of the bathrooms on these flights.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 12:17 pm to redstick13
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Part of the pre flight briefing should be the proper use of the bathrooms on these flights.
Can’t wait to watch someone walk in there barefoot. I’ve been here two weeks so I’m pretty loaded up on Imodium right now so I’m at least safe from having to do that.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:00 pm to billjamin
I had a Qatar flight that was 99.9% Indian into Houston (I was the .1%). I lost track of the number of times I watched someone open the bathroom door with someone on the pot. They seriously don’t know how bathroom door locks work. I have Indian fatigue to this day.
ETA - All walking around barefoot with their nasty toe rings to boot.
ETA - All walking around barefoot with their nasty toe rings to boot.
This post was edited on 7/11/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:08 pm to redstick13
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Could possibly be another pilot suicide.
If you're the pilot why would you need to mess with the fuel switches when you could just nosedive the plane into the ground whenever you wanted?
And I thought they said the voice recorder had audio of them yelling about no power. If it was intentional they wouldn't be yelling because they would know there wasn't any power as they (or one of them) had intentionally flipped the fuel switches.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:20 pm to redstick13
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I lost track of the number of times I watched someone open the bathroom door with someone on the pot. They seriously don’t know how bathroom door locks work. I have Indian fatigue to this day.
I saw this so much on my Munich to Delhi flight. I’m done with India. I’m never going back. These last 2 weeks broke me. They took us up to Shimla for the weekend and neglected to tell us it’s a 10 hour drive each way. I don’t have enough words to describe how awful it was. Then I got the pleasure of flying air India on a domestic flight to and from Chennai. Just terrible.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:39 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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If you're the pilot why would you need to mess with the fuel switches when you could just nosedive the plane into the ground whenever you wanted?
That’s pretty much my issue with the suicide theory. Doesn’t seem like those circumstances would offer much of a guarantee for a quick and painless death.
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And I thought they said the voice recorder had audio of them yelling about no power.
It would only take one pilot to pull it off and he’d be trying to be secretive about it so wouldn’t matter if they were both heard or just one of them. Not sure if it would produce an alarm that’s immediately noticeable. You’d think it would be.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 1:45 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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If you're the pilot why would you need to mess with the fuel switches when you could just nosedive the plane into the ground whenever you wanted?
Maybe the copilot did it without the captain’s knowledge.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 3:23 pm to billjamin
India is on my list of places I'm curious about but don't really think I'll ever go. Like Iran.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 3:37 pm to RollTide1987
Saw this linked elsewhere. Don’t know who alpha defense is.
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Preliminary Report | Accident involving Air India’s B787-8 aircraft bearing registration VT-ANB at Ahmedabad on 12 June 2025.
REPORT KEY FINDINGS : ??
1. Both engines mid-air ceased functioning seconds post takeoff as fueling mechanisms switched from RUN to CUTOFF sequentially.
2. In the cockpit audio, one voice asking “why did you cutoff” gets an answer of “I didn’t” from the other pilot.
3. Permanent power loss was indicated by RAT (Ram Air Turbine) deployment which was also captured on CCTV.
4. Attempting to relight the engines showed partial recovery in Engine 1 while Engine 2 was incapable of sustaining any recovery.
5. The aircraft was airborne a total of 32 seconds before crashing into a hostel 0.9 NM from the runway.
6. Thrust levers were at idle which suggests malfunction or disconnect when black box data indicates takeoff thrust was engaged.
7. No refueling source contamination was found on tested fuel.
8. The flap setting (5°) and gear (DOWN) were appropriate for the takeoff configuration.
9. There were no reports of bird activity or weather concerns as skies were clear with good visibility and light winds.
10. Pilot credentials are clear as both are medically fit and rested with sufficient type-rated experience.
11. No immediate evidence of sabotage was found, however, an FAA advisory regarding a fuel switch flaw was known and inspections were not conducted by Air India.
12. Aircraft was within aircraft weight and balance limits and confirmed no dangerous goods onboard.
Posted on 7/11/25 at 4:02 pm to dallastigers
Did this Indian pilot pull off what an Alaskan airlines jumpseater failed to do last year?
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