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re: June 12, 2025: Air India 787 Dreamliner crashes in the city of Ahmedabad

Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/12/25 at 8:58 pm to
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A passenger who reportedly flew on the doomed Air India jet just two hours before it crashed, killing more than 200 people, posted shocking video in which he says “nothing” was working in the cabin — including lights, air conditioning and the seat-back display screens.


I'm no Aeronautical Engineer but I'm pretty sure the Inflight Entertainment System isn't tied into the flight surfaces of a 787.
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12695 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:02 pm to
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I'm no Aeronautical Engineer but I'm pretty sure the Inflight Entertainment System isn't tied into the flight surfaces of a 787.


No but a lack of air, lights and entertainment may be a flag of general upkeep issues
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10624 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 9:17 pm to
quote:

I'm no Aeronautical Engineer but I'm pretty sure the Inflight Entertainment System isn't tied into the flight surfaces of a 787.


I don’t think that tie in was claimed in the article or in quote. That also wasn’t all that was mentioned in article. Like someone else just mentioned it could be a sign of overall poor upkeep and maintenance on the airplane which seems to be a problem in India.
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The AC is not working at all. And, as usual, your TV screens are also not working, neither is this button for calling the cabin crew,”

Other apparent faults, such as loose parts under the seats, broken fittings, and potential signs of a lack of maintenance, are also visible in the videos.

Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
63435 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:36 pm to
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Not a good look for Boeing


Why? This was most likely pilot error.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
16443 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 10:46 pm to
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This picture was taken this morning in the crashed Air India plane. ?? Pratik Joshi had been living in London for six years. A software professional, he’d long dreamed of building a life abroad for his wife and three young children, who stayed back in India.
After years of waiting for due clearances, the dream was finally coming true. Just two days ago, his wife, Dr. Komi Vyas, a renowned doctor in Udaipur, resigned from her job. The bags were packed, goodbyes said, the future within reach.
This morning, the family of five, filled with hope and excitement, boarded Air India flight 171 to London. They clicked a selfie. Sent it to relatives. A one-way journey to a new life. But they never made it. The plane crashed. None of them survived.
In a matter of moments, a lifetime of dreams turned to ash. A brutal reminder, life is terrifyingly fragile. Everything you build, everything you hope for, everything you love, it all hangs by a thread. So while you can, live, love, and don’t wait for happiness to start tomorrow.
Posted by summersausage
Member since Jul 2010
2002 posts
Posted on 6/12/25 at 11:53 pm to
Wow. Unimaginable
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:10 am to
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Why? This was most likely pilot error.


I tried explaining in the thread earlier that most people will just assume that since it's a Boeing plane that it was the planes/companies fault regardless of what the actual cause of was.

I got downvoted for some reason.
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:20 am to
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I tried explaining in the thread earlier that most people will just assume that since it's a Boeing plane that it was the planes/companies fault regardless of what the actual cause of was.


I believe you got downvoted because most people dont buy airliners or even pay attention to the company that makes them when booking a flight.

Unless this is from an inherent problem like the Max, which caused production to stop, and doesn't seem to be the case with the 787. This won't affect Boeing at all.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:17 am
Posted by Florida_Man1981
Member since Jan 2024
541 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:30 am to
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I remember flying into MDW once and we hit some turbulence and this older lanext to me grabbed my hand. I looked at her and she was white as a ghost. I asked her if she was nervous and she said yes. I told her to hold my hand if I panic then she should panic. Her death grip never eased but she did thank me after the flight.


Amazing story thanks for sharing.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5198 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:41 am to
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I tried explaining in the thread earlier that most people will just assume that since it's a Boeing plane that it was the planes/companies fault regardless of what the actual cause of was. I got downvoted for some reason.


You probably got the downvotes because we have so many similar threads, and they never include the name Airbus.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:43 am to
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even pay attention to the company that makes them when booking a flight.


I have friends who has started checking which aircraft they are flying and then will ask me about it.

I'm not agreeing with people who will be 'worried' about flying on a Boeing aircraft but public opinion is a thing....
Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
5257 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 6:44 am to
I love watching Juan, but this video by Captain Steve is very informative.

Possible accidental flap retraction by co-pilot instead of gear up.

Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16192 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:06 am to
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I have friends who has started checking which aircraft they are flying and then will ask me about it


They are just making excuses for why they keep driving to Big Bend or flying to Vegas instead of going somewhere interesting. Just point them to flight radar and show them the amount of aircraft in the air on any given day that nobody ever hears about.
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:37 am to
I do try. I try to give stats and what not. This is what I was trying to explain that the general public doesn't care about. They don't see 737, 747, 787....they see BOEING.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16192 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:47 am to
So they'll gladly get on a Bombardier Q400? Point is, it's just an excuse, Boeing or not.
Posted by Ruston Trombone
Member since Jun 2025
530 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:50 am to
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Why? This was most likely pilot error.


Funny how Boeings seem to have so much pilot error
Posted by dupergreenie
Member since May 2014
10069 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:52 am to
They fly but generally try avoiding anything Boeing. Boeing has had bad press for years now and that is what I believe the statement 'not a good look for Boeing' is referring to. The general public doesn't follow aviation and just listen to headlines.
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40884 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 7:56 am to
The 777 and 787 have the best safety records of any airframe current or past. It's not even comparable.
This post was edited on 6/13/25 at 7:57 am
Posted by redstick13
Lower Saxony
Member since Feb 2007
40884 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:01 am to
Mover also thinks there is something with the flaps setting.

Posted by sotex
Member since Oct 2018
233 posts
Posted on 6/13/25 at 8:03 am to
Cat Steve is a bit of an idiot though, as he’s shown in the past. The flaps on the wing that were photographed after the crash were still extended. And the RAT’s were deployed. Highly unlikely the flaps were retracted and that caused the sudden loss of power to retract the landing gear (it stopped getting retracted when power was lost).
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