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re: Judge orders teen to pay $37M for starting Oregon wildfire
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:06 am to DannyB
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:06 am to DannyB
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You can still the remnants and scars from when Yellowstone burned in 1988.
But is Yellowstone any less beautiful now than it was pre-1988?
And Yellowstone was badly overdue for a large wildfire by 1988.
My 5 years comment was off-base, yes, but the Columbia River Gorge will eventually make a full recovery.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:07 am
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:07 am to GetCocky11
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think you're going to be surprised with how the area bounces back.
I won't be. I've seen enough fire damage to have an idea.
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Within 5 years, you'll hardly know a fire was there.
Hardly.
This is after a burn 15 years ago.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:13 am to LSUintheNW
Should've run prescribed burns. The knowledge that a tree-hugger and typical resident carry isn't enough to allow the state to manage their timberlands properly. So, you end up with these huge fires. It's your own fault. I don't feel bad at all.
Eta: The reason it has such a hard time coming back is because the top strata of soil isn't dense at all, and the fire heated that and the layer underneath it up. That killed a lot of nutrients, but it should come back heavily filled with new growth once the nutrients get back into the soil
Eta: The reason it has such a hard time coming back is because the top strata of soil isn't dense at all, and the fire heated that and the layer underneath it up. That killed a lot of nutrients, but it should come back heavily filled with new growth once the nutrients get back into the soil
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:17 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:15 am to Hammertime
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:17 am to Hammertime
You do realize they likely already do prescribed burns?
They do prescribed burns in northern AZ forests. Doesn’t stop large forest fires completely.
They do prescribed burns in northern AZ forests. Doesn’t stop large forest fires completely.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:18 am to Hammertime
Controlled burns happen everywhere in the state but not on state parks property.
There wasn't a burn there til a kid was throwing fireworks.
Eta...this state has wild fires every year. Of course there are controlled burns every spring.
Just not there.
There wasn't a burn there til a kid was throwing fireworks.
Eta...this state has wild fires every year. Of course there are controlled burns every spring.
Just not there.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:22 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:18 am to LSUintheNW
Out of anyone on TD, I'm not the one to argue with about managing timberlands. I have two entire textbooks about prescribed burns sitting on my bookshelf 30ft away
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:19 am to GetCocky11
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And Yellowstone was badly overdue for a large wildfire by 1988.
I agree that they should do controlled burns to get rid of underbrush and dead trees.
Don't have any on my PC, but my wife has some crazy pictures of that fire. Her grandfather was working Federal Wildlife Management at Yellowstone at the time. She sat on his roof in West Yellowstone and watched it burn.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:20 am to Hammertime
You are truly an enigma. I want to drink a PBR with you one day.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:20 am to Hammertime
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Should've run prescribed burns. T
All these really do is slow a fire down, they don’t stop wildfires.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:22 am to Hammertime
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Out of anyone on TD, I'm not the one to argue with about managing timberlands
Yet you think Oregon doesn't do controlled burns.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:26 am to LSUintheNW
Maybe no one in Oregon has the textbooks that he has?
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:27 am to Sao
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Nothing is uniform in this so called justice system.
They tried that already with mandatory sentencing and you ended up with school kids with a joint doing hard time. No one liked that either so they have mostly gone back to judges discretion. Our system might have flaws but it is the best thing going in the history of mankind.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:27 am to lsunurse
Weyerhauser and the feds should contact him and get in the know.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:28 am to LSUintheNW
I'd like to see their schedule, patterns, style, etc. If they do them there, I can't tell you if they do them properly or not. Obviously a firework shouldn't start a huge blaze. That is a bad burn schedule
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:29 am to Hammertime
Are you blind or just obtuse?
Go up and read.
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If they do them there
Go up and read.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:30 am to LSUintheNW
quote:It is a PITA to do it on federal lands. You have to claim that it is for some type of animal here (typically gopher tortoise). I suspect it is just as much of a pain there
feds should contact him and get in the know
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 7:32 am
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:31 am to Hammertime
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I'd like to see their schedule, patterns, style, etc. If they do them there, I can't tell you if they do them properly or not. Obviously a firework shouldn't start a huge blaze. That is a bad burn schedule
On a board filled to the brim with know-it-alls, you reign supreme. You are so full of shite your eyes are brown.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:32 am to jbgleason
The kid’s community service should be hard labor in the state parks. Make him see the damage he has done on a repeated basis.
I would say have him help rebuild home/structures....but from the article sounds like the kid is very much hated. Kid could get hurt or killed by a homeowner.
I would say have him help rebuild home/structures....but from the article sounds like the kid is very much hated. Kid could get hurt or killed by a homeowner.
Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:32 am to Hammertime
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Hammertime
This didn’t go the way you wanted it to, did it?
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