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re: Judge gives guy 50 years no parole for drug charge
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:17 pm to N2cars
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:17 pm to N2cars
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a career criminal worthy of a severe punishment.
That sells something you can't OD on, has proven medical benefits and isn't physically addictive. You can OD on alcohol and even in severe cases die from withdrawals from it. But, a plant is illegal and all it does is take resources away from going after violent criminals.
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:21 pm to glassman
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Yes, we should. How about this guy. 35 years old and sentenced to LIFE for dealing weed.
Yea - perhaps a bit extreme, but it is a fourth conviction. Most drug penalties in general are pretty draconian though. Take marijuana cultivation in Louisiana - conviction on cultivation of ANY amount lands you in prison with a 5 year mandatory minimum, a sentence which cannot be altered by a judge.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:24 pm to ALWho
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He can be sued. Why would you think he couldn't be, even before his charges and conviction?
Sure, but my point is that legalizing it doesn't mean this guy would get off easy if he's selling stuff that is killing people.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:27 pm to jdd48
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Yea - perhaps a bit extreme, but it is a fourth conviction. Most drug penalties in general are pretty draconian though. Take marijuana cultivation in Louisiana - conviction on cultivation of ANY amount lands you in prison with a 5 year mandatory minimum, a sentence which cannot be altered by a judge.
It is a joke. The WOD has created an entire industry of for profit prisons. It is big with plenty of cash for lobbying.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:33 pm to Napoleon
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Not wanting to get into politics, but I always thought the small government types would be the ones more for legalization. (though I get many are, like yourself)
I frequently see this or a similar statement.
I am certainly a small government type. I would be in favor of legalization if simultaneously the government's grip of my resources was abolished.
let everyone do what ever they want to do just don't ask me to be responsible for their actions.
If you cant disconnect their freedom of action and resulting consequences from my "duty" and responsibility to society because I made wiser choices and have accumulated more resources then there will always be a disconnect.
Rehabilitation, treatment, and reinsertion in productive society, all takes resources that those needing them do not have. Stop strong arming those resources from the general populace and we will no longer care to what degree those persons ruin their lives.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:39 pm to jdd48
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marijuana cultivation in Louisiana - conviction on cultivation of ANY amount lands you in prison with a 5 year mandatory minimum, a sentence which cannot be altered by a judge.
not sure if anyone has Viceland channel, but the latest episode of Weediquette was just an hour long report on Louisiana, weed, the law, and a guy who's in jail for a very long time over possession of a couple joints
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:43 pm to Uncle Stu
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not sure if anyone has Viceland channel, but the latest episode of Weediquette was just an hour long report on Louisiana, weed, the law, and a guy who's in jail for a very long time over possession of a couple joints
New Orleans is shown early in the video. Ironically the city council is voting tomorrow at 11 on a possession decriminalization ordinance.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 7:46 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:45 pm to tLSU
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I don't care what they legalize, as long as not a single dime of taxpayer money is used on scraping you off the payment, driving you to the hospital, and providing you with medical treatment (or any social welfare benefit) as a result of your actions.
I'm with you brother. But don't be fooled, this 'no harm' drug crowd is all about you / me / them paying for their poor decisions. Let's do it like Lebanon, OD on the sidewalk, good luck, hope the varmints enjoy your carcass.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:51 pm to 91TIGER
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But don't be fooled, this 'no harm' drug crowd is all about you / me / them paying for their poor decisions
Yes, you are paying for a 35 year old to be in prison for life for dealing pot. He can easily live to 80, what if he gets cancer and has treatment? How much does that cost the state? Making everything legal would cut down on costs by a HUGE margin. We have the highest incarceration rate in Louisiana in the entire developed world. It is an industry and the corrupt sheriffs and DAs will never let go of that cash cow.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:56 pm to glassman
That Vice episode paints Cannizzaro as a total piece of subhuman garbage.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:57 pm to Maverick01
If everyone got 50 year punishments, I bet it would scare people from doing it. They need to put stronger sentences on people instead of a slap on the wrist
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:00 pm to CatsGoneWild
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If everyone got 50 year punishments, I bet it would scare people from doing it.
Yea - the recent past had proved that such an approach has worked great. Drug use is way down since draconian drug penalties were imposed years ago, and jails have virtually zero non-violent drug offenders anymore.
Or not. That approach has been a total failure.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:01 pm to jdd48
Link?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:02 pm to CatsGoneWild
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If everyone got 50 year punishments, I bet it would scare people from doing it. They need to put stronger sentences on people instead of a slap on the wrist
Why would you need to keep people from doing drugs? It's their fricking body. Nobody tells you what to eat or how much liquor you can consume in the privacy of your home.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:02 pm to jdd48
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That Vice episode paints Cannizzaro as a total piece of subhuman garbage.
of course, it's Vice....super liberal left wing, SJW, self-serving, holier than thou garbage that makes Rachel Maddow blush
painting any member of LE as vile and evil is their brand
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:06 pm to Uncle Stu
Yeah, always an agenda on both sides.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:27 pm to CatsGoneWild
quote:People should get 50 years for jaywalking, too.
If everyone got 50 year punishments, I bet it would scare people from doing it.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:47 pm to LucasP
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So is it kinda weird we've just accepted that justice is now a commodity that has to be bought in this country? If you're accused of a crime (even if you didn't commit it) you're required to pay money to keep your freedom. Shouldn't we all be more upset about that?
Because "innocent until proven guilty" is a huge lie. You are Guilty in the eyes of the state until proven innocent, and even after acquittal the state will say "He was acquitted, which is not the same as 'not guilty' " I have heard that so many times in press conferences and I puke a little in my mouth every time I hear it.
Crazy that you are pretty much guaranteed a lessor sentence if you have a lawyer, vs a public defender, who most of the time will look to plea out.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 8:59 pm to Barf
quote:Yep. What if Trudy White had this case? He would have likely been sentenced to the minimum. So 5 years instead of 50.
They impose their personal and moral beliefs on folks they have never in their fricking life had to interact with.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 3/16/16 at 9:01 pm to Maverick01
8 pages with some dumbest responses. Nobody deserves 50 years for selling anything.
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