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re: John Bel Has A Message......re: Closing Bars

Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:15 pm to
quote:


You Republicans for Edwards fricks should be ashamed


As should the Rispone voters who should’ve gone with Abraham.

So, the people who voted Republican twice are to blame for electing a Democrat governor?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112689 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:16 pm to
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I would be pissed if that were true

You seem to be extremely confused

JBE has not told schools to close. He has given them the whitehouse guidelines to open up

If your kids school is staying closed, that is on their school board my friend.
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47082 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:19 pm to
No JBE cheerleader here, but I can’t think of anything he has done during this that is more restrictive than the White House task force recs. Maybe I have missed something along the way.

With that said, some of the White House task force recs are garbage.
Posted by jdd48
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2012
24079 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:19 pm to
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We have seen a few good days of news, but one or two days is not a trend


Shouldn't the same go for negative numbers? Yet he uses one day of numbers to justify alot of his crap.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

I think the WH is recommending a 5% positivity rate for Phase 3.


Do you have a link?
I cannot find anything that references a %
WH reopening
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:20 pm to
quote:

but I can’t think of anything he has done during this that is more restrictive than the White House task force recs. Maybe I have missed something along the way.



other than the Phases being 3 weeks instead of 2, he hasn't
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47082 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:21 pm to
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The big question is sill it be another 2 weeks or longer & once that time frame passes will he bump us to phase 3 or just allow bars to open back to a full phase 2


I think bars will be out of luck till the very end this time.
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 3:25 pm
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
47082 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:23 pm to
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other than the Phases being 3 weeks instead of 2, he hasn't


That’s right. There was a time or 2 where it could have been 2 weeks instead of 3.

That is why I am not sure if this next extension will be 2 or 3 weeks.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:27 pm to
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Do you have a link?
I cannot find anything that references a %
WH reopening


LINK

this kinda talks about it

but its in the WH guidance documents

>10% red - more restrictions
5-10% yellow - continue as is
<5% green - move forward to next Phase
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:28 pm to
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Are casinos still open?



All day long...
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:32 pm to
Is this what you are referencing?

quote:

In May, the World Health Organization recommended that governments make sure test positivity rates were at 5 percent or lower for 14 days before reopening. A COVID-19 tracker from Johns Hopkins University shows that 33 states were above that recommended positivity as of July 16.



Or is it in the 359 page document?
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:34 pm to
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Or is it in the 359 page document?



Its in there, but I'm sure they are using the WHO guidelines as a basis

like I said, they are currently recommending

red = pull back
yellow = stay where you are
green = open up more

that includes cases and positivity rate

all of LA is currently labeled as "red" FWIW
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 3:35 pm
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:40 pm to
The White House is giving guidelines based on the WHO guidelines?

quote:

all of LA is currently labeled as "red" FWIW


This document is 2 weeks old
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 3:41 pm
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8875 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:41 pm to
At this point I don’t care what any elected official has to say and the letter that follows their name doesn’t matter. When government gets involved especially at this level the crap never ends and it’s always something else. I don’t want anyone to get sick or die but I’m going to continue to live my life like I have the past 5 months. If I need to wear a mask to go somewhere I will but if not I’m not wearing a mask and I don’t feel bad about it.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

The White House is giving guidelines based on the WHO guidelines?


maybe

I'm sure they are all kinda piggybacking off each other

read the first line on Alaska and it tells you that green means <5% positivity rate


quote:

This document is 2 weeks old


I know

but LDH is keeping LA updated on their portal

all parishes are currently in the red for cases, but there are a few that are yellow for positivity rate

no greens though
This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 3:45 pm
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:55 pm to
I don’t think they are using the %, that is just referenced in the story as the WHO guideline

The White House guidelines


This particular report is dated 7/14 with notes that case / death data is current up to 7/10 & testing data is current through 7/8
I don’t know how / if more current data would help Louisiana or not
Posted by BigB0882
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
5422 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:57 pm to
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but he wont listen when the White House says to open schools..


Schools are opening, though. The way they are opening is up to each district.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86757 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 3:58 pm to
quote:

I don’t think they are using the %, that is just referenced in the story as the WHO guideline



It is literally referenced in the first line on the Alaska page

"and the green zone for test positivity, indicating a rate below 5%"

quote:

This particular report is dated 7/14 with notes that case / death data is current up to 7/10 & testing data is current through 7/8
I don’t know how / if more current data would help Louisiana or not


I'm not really concerned with that particular report, just the criteria that they are using to classify areas as "red", "yellow", or "green"

This post was edited on 7/31/20 at 4:04 pm
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:08 pm to
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Schools are opening, though. The way they are opening is up to each district.



Why not let the regions or parishes decide what bars or other places of businesses open or shutdown?

Or how about this.....stay home if you’re at risk and let the rest of the taxpayers keep this economy going??
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/31/20 at 4:09 pm to
Here are color code metrics



Green means positive rate under 5 which Alaska is


This is how the task force is tracking states

WHO guideline referenced in story

quote:

In May, the World Health Organization recommended that governments make sure test positivity rates were at 5 percent or lower for 14 days before reopening.


This from a volunteer organization

“If the test positivity rate is above 10 percent, that means we’re not doing a good job mitigating the outbreak,” said Jessica Malaty Rivera, science communication lead at the COVID Tracking Project, a volunteer organization launched by journalists from The Atlantic. “Ideally we want the test positivity rate to be below 3 percent, because that shows that we’re suppressing COVID-19.”

None of these % are referenced anywhere in the White House reopening guidelines
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