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re: Joe's Crab Shack is now the first major restaurant chain to drop tipping

Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:16 am to
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perpetuated by restaurant owners to push costs on to patrons.



Did you see where Joes is increasing prices 15% to make up for the new labor costs?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138858 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:19 am to
Yes, croaka

I am talking about the awesome current system that allows me to receive all my services and thus have no motivation to leave tip.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:22 am to
Sorry, I misread your post


Either way, the only effect on people who normally do tip well is that we will likely see reduced quality of service

On the bright side, maybe the higher prices will keep out some of the non-tipping trash which will make for a better dining environment, aside from the subpar service
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39265 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:25 am to
quote:

perpetuated by restaurant owners to push costs on to patrons.



Did you see where Joes is increasing prices 15% to make up for the new labor costs?



That's what a lot of people do not get. The cost of labor has to be paid for by the guests either way. I'm all for this though. You'll see the quality of your employees go up. The average person wants a guaranteed rate instead of the idea of hustling for more tips. People lack serious hustle.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21535 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:28 am to
quote:

the only effect on people who normally do tip well is that we will likely see reduced quality of service


I tip well, but the kids at Joe's do not know me well enough to expect that and serve accordingly. You must be a regular there.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61451 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:29 am to
Quality of service will be reduced across the board if i were to guess

Has nothing to do with a server knowing me
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89398 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:29 am to
quote:

I am talking about the awesome current system that allows me to receive all my services and thus have no motivation to leave tip.


Didn't realize you had a Charger on 22s. Nice.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64070 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:30 am to
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Will Sonic do this next?


I just hope Sonic ditches their stupid "two guys in a car commercials." They've run their course.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89398 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:31 am to
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I'm all for this though. You'll see the quality of your employees go up. The average person wants a guaranteed rate instead of the idea of hustling for more tips. People lack serious hustle.


I refuse to believe the average waitress at your Hooter's would be happier with $12-$14 an hour over what they make now.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118271 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 8:44 am to
I wonder if mcDonalds would ever allow their employees to work for tips.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138858 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:17 am to
I drive a challenger, tyvm
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:18 am to
Food cost have to go up.
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
13177 posts
Posted on 11/12/15 at 9:25 am to
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can the quality of service go down at joe's crab shack?


I've never been but I doubt they're employing top of the line wait staff


Last I heard (a couple years ago), the BR Joe's was dead last in the company going by a variety of metrics out of 130+ restaurants nationwide. There was a time they were in the 10-20 range, but as I've mentioned, managers mean everything. They lost that core that had kept it together for so long, and it dropped off a cliff...

It really wasn't a bad gig when I worked there, and the numbers I posted were not "inflated" as suggested. The most popular items on the menu were the $19-$25 crab dishes and they were rarely shared unless it was an addon to different entrees. Granted, you would have tables come in for the Fish & Shrimp which cost $10.99, but even the low tabs were normally in the $30-35 range for 2 people. The good tabs would easily reach $100 on a table of four quite normally. It would be easy to reach $1200-1300 in total food sales on a normal weekend shift and even after the 3% tipshare, all you had to do was average a 13% tip all night to walk with $120-$130.
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