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re: Joel Osteen took 4.4 million dollars in Covid relief

Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
12620 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:58 pm to
I don’t know Joel or Victoria. I don’t know what is in their hearts. I will say that he doesn’t preach actual scripture but he has convinced thousands of people to fill his church arena. He must be a great actor or his audience are a bunch of dumbfounded people.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122162 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:00 pm to
People involved in both parties took advantage. You can't just call out one.

The RNC received the most donations from companies that received a PPP.

Instead of pointing the finger at one, can you at least agree that politicians are politicians no matter what side they are on.. And in reality they are all shite stains?
Posted by Demshoes
Up in here
Member since Aug 2015
10729 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:01 pm to
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audience are a bunch of dumbfounded people.


Opiate of the masses
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
59243 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:02 pm to
You realize that those church services are like staffing a small college football game right? It’s not just a few people passing out program and throwing some coffee pots out.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19269 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:02 pm to
“This mother fricker doesn’t pay taxes, “
Yes he does, the church is exempt but he pays income tax on any compensation he gets. I can’t stand the guy, I can’t stand mega churches because they are all about $$$$
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84709 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:03 pm to
I kind of like the guy
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6161 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:03 pm to
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Sorry, this mother fricker can afford to pay his employees. Meanwhile the thousands of people laid off at the meat packing plant don’t get shite. This is outrageous


I’m with you for the most part but not sure you understand how the PPP works. The business is obligated to show that the loan taken was used to pay the employees. So in your example I guess the owner of the meat packing plant (or any business for that matter) could possibly come out of pocket to pay their employees. Not sure where you draw the line. (Cash balances, home equity, securities, etc?)
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
21354 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:03 pm to
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I can assure you the IRS looks at operations like Osteen’s with a microscope.


I think the IRS let’s them get away with murder, lest they catch hell for “targeting Christians.”
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:04 pm to
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I will say that he doesn’t preach actual scripture

There is NO Jesus in his "sermons." Just "Be good and good things will come to you. Do you want it? Just feel good about getting it and good things will come to you."

With his shiny white teeth.

And he most certainly doesn't make any attempt whatsoever to convict anyone. Like Dr. Rogers used to say... if you aren't getting your toes stepped on, you need to find a different church.
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 9:06 pm
Posted by shaqtaw
Member since Oct 2009
6851 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:05 pm to
If it was legal then I see no problem with it!!
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:05 pm to
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You realize that those church services are like staffing a small college football game right? It’s not just a few people passing out program and throwing some coffee pots out.


I’m thinking he has like 300 people paid and then a thousand or so on a voluntary basis. Sold copiers at one point to these churches and they said they never had the funds but yet I was sitting at a table in their courtyard where they were charging coffee at 4 bucks a cup. I just have nothing but disdain for these mega churches and feel bad for the people who fall for it.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:05 pm to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122162 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:07 pm to
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You realize that those church services are like staffing a small college football game right? It’s not just a few people passing out program and throwing some coffee pots out.


Is it his church.. Or maybe its another one like his or it could be multiple churches, but they sell concessions during service.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:07 pm to
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What a fricking charlatan this fricking snake oil salesman is. This mother fricker doesn’t pay taxes, is worth over 100 million dollars, and has his own private jet from his own constituency. Between not paying taxes and his private jet, why doesn’t he just sell the jet or think through he’s saved far more than 4.4 million dollars by not being taxed? Why doesn’t he take one for the team?



Sorry, but I blame the govt for giving him this opportunity and I blame his followers for giving him money. He's not forcing people to give him money. If you can't see how you're being hoodwinked by this a-hole then maybe you deserve to be swindled.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30479 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:07 pm to
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He must be a great actor or his audience are a bunch of dumbfounded people.


Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:08 pm to
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I just have nothing but disdain for these mega churches


That's rather obvious.

Just out of curiosity, what makes a church a "mega church"?

We've got close to 30,000 members, but I'd in no way consider us a "mega church." We are just a church with a lot of members.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:09 pm to
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People like him are killing Christianity

/thread
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:09 pm to
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Just out of curiosity, what makes a church a "mega church"?


I pointed it out in that post: selling coffee. Once you get to that point, you’re evil. I go to a huge Episcopal Cathedral here in Denver, and they’ve never thought about charging their congregation for coffee.
Posted by Lee Chatelain
Official TD Sauces Club Member
Member since Oct 2008
12487 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:10 pm to
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He doesn’t pay taxes though and has a fricking private jet. frick him!


I’m sure if you had a private jet you’d of taken the PPP money.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:10 pm to
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We've got close to 30,000 members, but I'd in no way consider us a "mega church." We are just a church with a lot of members.


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