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re: JBE: Shelter in place "may be necessary" in LA

Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:07 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41181 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:07 pm to
If you’re saying lock downs are effective, why wouldn’t they lock down the most infected area?
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
29422 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:07 pm to
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Don't order anything you aren't willing to shoot people dead in the street over. Because at the end of the day, that is what is at stake. What will law enforcement do to the non-compliant? Ask nicely?



I'm as conservative as they come.

You people are fricking psychotic.


Eta: the poli board is a cesspool.

Why do we allow the shite to come out of it?
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:10 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:08 pm to
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but you're not worried about test...you're only worried about ER's and hospital beds

a lot has been posted about this. hell just look at Italy/Spain. that's what we're scared of

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how many people inside of that specific population are going to end up in the hospital ER and ICU's?

NPR

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One option they considered was a relatively modest restriction on social activity. It combined home isolation of cases, home quarantine for household members, and social distancing for only those over 70. This approach cut deaths in half and reduced peak health care demand by two-thirds, they found.

However, it still resulted in many deaths and overwhelmed intensive care units. The simulation showed that the surge capacity of hospitals would be exceeded by at least eightfold. Even if all patients were treated, the U.S. would see more than 1 million deaths.
Posted by Unknown_Poster
Member since Jun 2013
5758 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:09 pm to
Tell that to the lawyer on a ventilator.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41181 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:09 pm to
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Even if all patients were treated, the U.S. would see more than 1 million deaths.


Fear mongering at its finest
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:10 pm to
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you have just been whiny as shite about the whole unfairness of the horrible NOLA residents making your life difficult.

because that's the area that should be targeted

if we were going to go down this road, there is no reason why there shouldn't have been drastic measures done initially to hot spots. that's primarily west coast urban areas, but it also includes Nola

if we quarantined Nola, the entire Southeast would be a lot safer and in less need of total economic shutdown
Posted by LSUballs
RayVegas LA
Member since Feb 2008
39818 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:10 pm to
Uh, where are we supposed to shelter in place when you closed all the damn bars You lumpy headed bitch
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41181 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:10 pm to
You go ahead and continue to make emotional charged decisions based entirely on outliers
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 3:11 pm
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:10 pm to
All I know is that people aren’t filling hospitals and dying with some mystery disease. Whether 100 or 1,000,000 people have it doesn’t seem to matter much.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41181 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:11 pm to
Nuh uh! Didn’t you hear that the NOLA hospitals are busy?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
119953 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:12 pm to
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Louisiana never wants to fricking listen, it's why they're last in everything that economically means anything. Everyone knows better.




This.

Everyone knows the problem but don't want to do what is needed to fix it and that isn't just for the coronavirus.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:12 pm to
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All I know is that people aren’t filling hospitals and dying with some mystery disease.

*yet

*allegedly
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
38963 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:13 pm to
I've got bad news for him, i'm going to work. I live in a rural town and there are only 3-4 people in my office daily. Sorry bruh, but im going to work.
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
34357 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:13 pm to
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if we were going to go down this road, there is no reason why there shouldn't have been drastic measures done initially to hot spots. that's primarily west coast urban areas, but it also includes Nola

if we quarantined Nola, the entire Southeast would be a lot safer and in less need of total economic shutdown
we are way past that, too much travel in and out of those areas already. If you quarantine, they need to just go ahead and rip the band aid off and go nationwide, or else we will end up locking down a new place every few days once tests get done. the flow of goods would be way too disrupted if its a new place being locked down every week

Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:15 pm to
Right. I guess it could just magically become more life threatening. God could just be playing one giant game of plague inc waiting to mutate the virus.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
52919 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:16 pm to
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if we quarantined Nola, the entire Southeast would be a lot safer and in less need of total economic shutdown

Mardi Gras spread that shite all over the place if Nola was the epicenter in this area.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41181 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:16 pm to
There is no if
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464767 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:17 pm to
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we are way past that, too much travel in and out of those areas already

i agree but there are still "hot spots". lots of indicators point at Nola being such a place

yes there is spread from it, but if we're going to "shut it down" why not start at the hot spots and then look at spread elsewhere? this is opposed to shutting EVERYTHING down when it might not even be necessary

i'll simplify

at this point, all the indicators are that the government is going to shut Nola down. the question is if we need to shut everywhere else in the state down and what data are they using to make that decision?

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or else we will end up locking down a new place every few days once tests get done. the flow of goods would be way too disrupted if its a new place being locked down every week

that's a major issue with our strategy, Nola or no Nola
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:17 pm to
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the U.S. would see more than 1 million deaths.




So that's .02 of the population over the age of 65


Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2953 posts
Posted on 3/18/20 at 3:17 pm to
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I'm as conservative as they come.

You people are fricking psychotic.


I didn't advocate one way or the other. However, it is a legitimate question no? And one that you conspicuously avoided answering.
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