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Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:26 pm to
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He has answered your question perfectly


No he hasn't.

Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:26 pm to
110 million dollar hospital for 26 people
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Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:26 pm to
Whatever lunch. Argue the semantics.

At least the lightbulb is going off that the data is more complicated than what you realized and can't be reflected with the simple spreadsheet this site uses.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:28 pm to
It's not semantics. Here is the question again.
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How many times was our closures/phasing decided by looking at the raw daily data vs the corrected data? If we are almost 50% higher in positive rate over the last 10 days, that means there must be corresponding drops on other dates.


It is not possible for the rates now to be higher without having corresponding drops in the past.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:29 pm to
Not possible for the positivity rates to be higher?

I really am trying to answer your question. I will do whatever it takes to do so.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:29 pm to
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I will do whatever it takes to do so.



Except do it apparently.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:30 pm to
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How many times was our closures/phasing decided by looking at the raw daily data vs the corrected data?
Zero

I have watched every press conference

When making the phasing decisions, Dr. Billout always goes through the data that shows cases and deaths by collection date, which doesnt math the tigerdroppings report

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If we are almost 50% higher in positive rate over the last 10 days,
We arent though. JBE was being misleading there

They havent updated the corrected positive cases since July 24th
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 3:32 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Except do it apparently.


Would me building 30 days of past data in the same manner as the TD spreadsheet help for you to see the data
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:31 pm to
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Zero

I have watched every press conference

When making the phasing decisions, Dr. Billout always goes through the data that shows cases and deaths by collection date, which doesnt math the tigerdroppings report




So then this arbitrary <10% positive rate is a new thing that didn't matter in the past?

Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:32 pm to
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Would me building 30 days of past data in the same manner as the TD spreadsheet help for you to see the data



That is not the issue.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:32 pm to
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So then this arbitrary <10% positive rate is a new thing that didn't matter in the past?
No

They used it to enter phase 2
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:32 pm to
The <10% came from White House guidance months ago.

It has never been explained to me why it isn't arbitrary
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 3:33 pm
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:34 pm to
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No

They used it to enter phase 2



You're CPA are you not? Do you not agree that if the rate was "higher than reported" today that there would have to be corresponding "lower than reported days" since the total should be the same?
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:35 pm to
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Do you not agree that if the rate was "higher than reported" today that there would have to be corresponding "lower than reported days" since the total should be the same?
Yes

Whats your point?

They dont make any decisions based on using the data from the day it was reported

They use the data when its corrected to actual collecton date or date of hospitalization etc
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:37 pm to
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Yes

Whats your point?

They dont make any decisions based on using the data from the day it was reported

They use the data when its corrected to actual collecton date or date of hospitalization etc



So you trust JBE or Latoya not to use whatever data he needs to do what he wants? I don't.

I appreciate the response to my actual question btw.
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 3:38 pm
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
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So you trust JBE or Latoya not to use whatever data he needs to do what he wants? I don't.

I can only judge him by what he has done

Every time he has made a phasing decision, he has absolutely referenced the data that is on their website. He has not double dipped so to speak
Posted by MorbidTheClown
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:38 pm to
you guys have muddied up this thread so much it's worthless
This post was edited on 7/30/20 at 3:39 pm
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 7/30/20 at 3:39 pm to
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you guys have muddied up this thread so much it's worthless



Right, because all the OMGH back to phase 1 posts really brought a lot to the discussion.
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