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re: Jarvis DeBerry and Mardi Gras Beads

Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:56 pm to
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I'm all for recycling and throwing less beads. The amount thrown at Endymion this year was obscene. I saw so many people catching beads and then throwing them on the ground where they are later scooped up with the rest of the garbage.


This is because the crowd is full of a bunch of ADHD mother frickers that only want special shite that blinks and causes siezures. The days of people in NOLA having attics full of bags/boxes of loose beads are gone.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38233 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:58 pm to
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The amount thrown at Endymion this year was obscene.



jesus dude, if you ever go to a parade where they are stingy with the throws (yes, I've witnessed it in NOLA too) you will celebrate the liberal amounts you see now.

too hot
too cold
too wet
too dry
too early
too late
too many throws

Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 12:59 pm to
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Could we maybe talk about the idea and not how Jarvis is a race baiting idiot? We know that already.

Just pretend some one else wrote the article.


Ok, the idea is fricking stupid. It would take someone building a massive operation to combat anything China can produce. Even then they wouldn't be able to pass along the same price. It certainly won't be taken over by some little shitty start-up women's group.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41669 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:04 pm to
Yeah, we aren't going to take over China in bead production.

I'm more interested in the idea of less beads, more music.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:05 pm to
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if you ever go to a parade where they are stingy with the throws (yes, I've witnessed it in NOLA too) you will celebrate the liberal amounts you see now.

Every women's parade. The amount of throws being offloaded after the parades is even more ridiculous than the people who buy everything under the sun.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:07 pm to
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I'm more interested in the idea of less beads, more music.


Care to be more specific?
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41669 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:15 pm to
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Care to be more specific?


People pay higher dues and less on throws. The money from higher dues is used to pay for more bands to participate in parades.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:15 pm to
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I'm more interested in the idea of less beads, more music.



Meh, I go to parades to catch stuff.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:16 pm to
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Every women's parade


Wut? You're either ugly or not trying. Nyx and Muses throws a boat load.
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28974 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:20 pm to
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Jarvis DeBerry


race baiting piece of shite
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
37327 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:20 pm to
as a rider, I'll tell you that people don't want beads any more...it's blinky stuff or plushies that go down well...
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:22 pm to
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People pay higher dues and less on throws. The money from higher dues is used to pay for more bands to participate in parades.


There's a band or dance group after every float. Sometimes more than 1. Every school in NOLA that has a marching band gets money during Carnival.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89834 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:24 pm to
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Throw a lot less stuff off the floats


frick that.

quote:

instead take that money and use it to get more high school bands and out of state bands to perform in the parades


Bands are filler between floats. Nobody comes to the parades to see them except maybe family.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41669 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:26 pm to
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Bands are filler between floats. Nobody comes to the parades to see them except maybe family.


So what do you come to the parades to see?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:27 pm to
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So what do you come to the parades to see?


The floats and to catch stuff.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
10583 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:28 pm to
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Bands are filler between floats. Nobody comes to the parades to see them except maybe family.

I ride and I enjoy watching/listening to the bands while loading in. People come for all the aspects of the parade, not just the floats and things thrown.
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 1:31 pm
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:35 pm to
I'm in a Krewe. We throw a shite-ton of beads but nothing like the super Krewes in NOLA. Extrapolating our cost for beads-even at retail-and then magnifying it for the membership numbers in Endymion, Bacchus, Orpheus and even some smaller Krewe's like Thoth and Sparta, there is absolutely, positively NO WAY that every Krewe in the State of Louisiana spends $500,000,000.00 on throws on an annual basis. Whether the author or whomever got those numbers for him is using wholesale costs or even retail costs.

ZERO.

There are outfits here locally that produce and manufacture beads. I won't get into it, but ask the Krewe's that have been using them what they think of them.

Again though, the $500,000,000.00 amount is not even in the same solar system of reality for what Krewe's spend and I'm lumping them all together throughout the state, not just NOLA. There's simply no way that number is in the same star system as reality.

ETA: I'd love to watch the author listen in on the calls made to the marching groups and bands every year. The amount of ridiculous add-on expenses and annual inflation of costs for bands to appear is a time-honored tradition. Oh and before we just try and act like they're underpaid, why not ask those kids exactly how much of the money they're paid makes it way into their music programs at school, or what % covers the cost of their travel and participation and what % goes into the music director or band director's pockets?
This post was edited on 3/16/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
21956 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:38 pm to
I am unaware of any unnatural impediments to doing exactly what Jarvis is suggesting. Nothing is preventing the "local, poor, culture creators" from making throws to be sold to Mardi Gras krewes.... except, you know, free market forces, which, like gravity, is neither good nor bad, it just is.

If someone can make a premium throw that krewes will want to throw, then there is money to be made. If they can make a cheaper and/or better (more desirable) throw, then there is money to be made. The state of LA would probably incentivize it with a tax break if I know a thing or 2 about racial politics. So, Jarvis, have at it!
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14970 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:43 pm to
BTW-if Jarvis had done some research, I can tell you that the Archdiocese here in BR has a program where disabled folks (mainly blind and some folks with developmental disabilities) take recycled and/or donated beads and clean and recondition them and then resell them.

100% of the proceeds from those profits goes to the folks who worked on those beads.

So the "community," has already had this idea, and had it long ago, and while I am enthralled to work with programs like this, the economic realities of supply and demand simply don't seem to warrant folks using this avenue on a scale large enough to make their for-profit version viable economically.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
10583 posts
Posted on 3/16/16 at 1:45 pm to
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BTW-if Jarvis had done some research, I can tell you that the Archdiocese here in BR has a program where disabled folks (mainly blind and some folks with developmental disabilities) take recycled and/or donated beads and clean and recondition them and then resell them.



Same in Nola. A lot of the stuff that used to go in my parents attic heads to St. Michael's.
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