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re: Jamie Foxx's loved ones reportedly preparing for worst as his health declines

Posted on 5/11/23 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24746 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 3:57 pm to
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An OT Doctor thunder dome in a Jamie Foxx thread. Let’s get it on.


Can we call it condescension climax?
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
715 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 4:02 pm to
ChatGPT Ruling on the OT Doctor Thunder Dome:


Both Jizzy08 and LSUtwolves present medically accurate statements, but they're discussing slightly different facets of a complex medical topic.

Jizzy08 is emphasizing the common understanding of a "clot," which is often associated with conditions like venous thromboembolism (VTE), and differentiating it from atherosclerotic plaques that can lead to stroke.

LSUtwolves is correctly describing the pathophysiology of atherosclerosis and ischemic stroke, where a thrombus, which is a type of clot, can form due to a ruptured plaque.

As to which argument a medical expert might find "better," that could depend on the context of the discussion and what specifically is being debated. If the conversation is about the general use of the term "clot," they might lean towards Jizzy08's argument. If the conversation is about the pathophysiology of stroke, they might find LSUtwolves's argument more comprehensive, as it correctly details the complex sequence of events that can lead to an ischemic stroke. However, both are contributing accurate and valuable information to the discussion.



I Didnt add the last line of LSUtwoleves argument: "And why would you jump to embolic stroke from afib in a patient with known chronic HTN?" - Updated ChatGPT response below

This additional question from LSUtwolves (Poster 2) adds more context to the discussion and suggests that they might be talking about a specific patient case. The question seems to critique Jizzy08's assumption about the stroke being potentially caused by atrial fibrillation (A-fib), especially when the patient has known chronic hypertension (HTN), which is a major risk factor for atherosclerosis and ischemic stroke.

In medicine, the most common or likely causes are usually considered first, which is known as applying Occam's razor. So in a patient with known chronic HTN, the most likely cause of a stroke would indeed be related to hypertension-induced atherosclerosis rather than A-fib, unless there was additional information to suggest the patient had A-fib or was at a high risk of it.

However, it's important to note that this doesn't necessarily make one argument "better" than the other. Both Jizzy08 and LSUtwolves provided valid points and accurate medical information. It's just that LSUtwolves's argument might be more applicable to the specific case in question if the patient indeed has chronic HTN but no known A-fib.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 4:14 pm
Posted by Tony Rocky Horror
Member since May 2023
312 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 4:21 pm to
Fishy bc he was set to testify in the Obama campaign money laundering case
Posted by Jizzy08
Member since Aug 2008
12213 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 4:34 pm to
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TacoNash


actually pretty legit. I’m not arguing with anyone, we obviously interpret the layman use of “clot” differently.

Uncontrolled HTN can lead to A-fib however so we can’t necessarily say it couldn’t have been a cause. But LSUtwolves probably knows Jamie Foxx’s complete medical history so I’ll leave it at that. He’s clearly the superior clinician and internet badass doctor.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48149 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:13 pm to
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Not really true at all.


Yes it is.

Old people, and post surgery, were the biggest threats for clotting. Now, you see young, very healthy individuals develop clots when it was a rare event prior to 2020.

Other than having clotting disorders, these things elevate your risk of blood clots:

quote:

Age. People age 65 and older have increased blood clot risk.
Pregnancy.
Having obesity.
Having cancer.
Taking birth control pills or having hormone therapy.
Smoking.
Not being able to move around.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by OGhunter777
Member since Mar 2012
902 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:28 pm to
Good old fashioned medical debate. What topic is next?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
48149 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:31 pm to
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What topic is next?


It's always debated here.

People (probably those who took the jab) do not want to believe that getting vaccinated has elevated their risk of having blood clots.

In the Crossfit Games last year, a female competitor had a blood clot occur in the middle of the 1st event in one of her arms. She was rushed to the hospital for an emergency surgery. How many times have we heard about a very fit person having clotting issues when they did not have a blood clotting disorder prior to 2020? How do I know she was vaccinated? She's a Nurse from Canada.
This post was edited on 5/11/23 at 5:39 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39383 posts
Posted on 5/11/23 at 5:34 pm to
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Jamie Foxx's loved ones reportedly preparing for worst as his health declines

Preparing to spend dat monies
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12031 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 10:37 am to
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spoonfed by the media,


People are like this about music too. They swear there’s no good country music anymore yet they only consume via spoonfed method by XM radio. Lazy pricks.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5733 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 11:25 am to
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What topic is next?


Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
33250 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:35 pm to
This is why the OP and our society is doomed. One dumb arse Twitter account posted this and people ran with it. Now he’s recovering at home and fine

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
44877 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:43 pm to
Strange reporting on all this

“Jamie Foxx's daughter has had enough of the internet running wild with theories about her dad, saying he's now out of the hospital and "recuperating."

Corinne Foxx took to Instagram Friday, writing, "Update from the family: Sad to see how the media runs wild. My Dad has been out of the hospital for weeks, recuperating. In fact, he was playing pickleball yesterday! Thanks for everyone's prayers and support!"

LINK
This post was edited on 5/12/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77158 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:57 pm to
He’s probably been sitting at home for a couple of weeks chuckling at all of the speculation.
Posted by Possumslayer
Pascagoula
Member since Jan 2018
6474 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 2:58 pm to
Definitely aids
Posted by Don Quixote
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/12/23 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by sqerty
AP
Member since May 2022
8139 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:09 pm to
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was playing pickleball


Worse than I thought. RIP
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104362 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 4:29 pm to
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Corinne Foxx took to Instagram Friday, writing, "Update from the family: Sad to see how the media runs wild. My Dad has been out of the hospital for weeks, recuperating. In fact, he was playing pickleball yesterday! Thanks for everyone's prayers and support!"


RIP
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108534 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:22 pm to
Little known fact, the vax makes you love pickleball. You think it’s a coincidence the popularity exploded over the last two years and Pfizer has a huge stake in pickleball paddles?

Wake up people
Posted by SmelvinRat
Slumwoody
Member since Oct 2015
1962 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:26 pm to
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How many times have we heard about a very fit person having clotting issues when they did not have a blood clotting disorder prior to 2020?


Nelly Korda (LPGA) comes to mind...
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1343 posts
Posted on 5/12/23 at 5:30 pm to
They’ve got the clone ready!
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