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re: James Spann weighs in on upcoming NOAA and NWS cuts

Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by Gusoline
Jacksonville, NC
Member since Dec 2013
9938 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:40 pm to
He can just not buy any coats or blazers and save everyone the emotion when he takes it off.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:42 pm to
Is there a quote from white house actually saying this or is this more fear porn from the media?
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:43 pm to
It’s more Project 2025 BS aka the left’s version of Q
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 3:44 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92465 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:43 pm to
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Immediate 33% cut to NOAA and targeted for eventual complete elimination of the agency. If this goes through, and theres really nothing to stop it, , spring storm season and hurricane season will be interesting


In hindsight, getting political with AGW/CC issues was probably a mistake, no?
Posted by rooster108bm
Member since Nov 2010
3068 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Hateradedrink
Spann is royalty in Alabama, but he will be a woke DEI hire by the end of the week.


Spann is about as based as a guy can get. Doesn't even push the climate change bullshite.

I see Spann as someone Trump or Elon would listen too.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5831 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Everything I can find online suggests that the major cuts to NOAA are hearsay and loosely based on Project 2025 which is not Trump-affiliated.


You do realize the author of 2025 is the agency executive of OMB correct?
Posted by RIPMachoMan
Member since Jun 2011
7191 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:46 pm to
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It’s more Project 2025 BS aka the left’s version of Q


Except Project 2025 is real. Not saying Trump is following
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
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5831 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:47 pm to
The extensive RIFs are a hallmark of Project 2025
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
20197 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:49 pm to
Project 2025 is "real" in the sense that it's an actual document. It's also a 900+ page think tank production that ranges from typical conservative opinions to weirdo conservative pipe dreams. Of course some of what the Trump admin does will be included in it, it's basically a summary of conservatism, from the most benign boring shite to the most extreme.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5831 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 3:51 pm to
Yeah well the guy who authored it is in a position of power and is a self described Christian nationalist.
This post was edited on 2/26/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69519 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:02 pm to
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Is there a quote from white house actually saying this or is this more fear porn from the media?


more fear porn by the media and hyperbole from the OT Centrists dying to say “i told you so” to those of us who voted for Trump.

Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
46689 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:03 pm to
I need to mail my OT centrist list to Elon
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
69519 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:05 pm to
with how much most of them are gnashing their teeth over ICE deportations affecting the price of sheetrock, maybe you should just give them a call. must be a connection there.
Posted by crazyLSUstudent
391 miles away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2012
5831 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:10 pm to
Per Project 2025, “The NOAA should be dismantled and many of its functions eliminated, sent to other agencies, privatized, or placed under control of states and territories.” Doesn’t define which programs will be eliminated. We can all assume it’s things they consider to be politically charged aka climate change. Regardless the statement is very broad so it will be completely at their desertion as to what happens.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
13405 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Immediate 33% cut to NOAA and targeted for eventual complete elimination of the agency. If this goes through, and theres really nothing to stop it, , spring storm season and hurricane season will be interesting

If (and that's a big if) NOAA is eliminated, NWS isn't necessarily going to go with it. NOAA is an agency within the Department of Commerce. NWS could simply be moved up a level and become an opdiv of Commerce as opposed to an office within NOAA.
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
3902 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:15 pm to
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Doesn’t seem like an area we need to cut. There is a lot more lower hanging waste.


Wrong. NOAA has been corrupted with fear porn global warming bull shite. Faking data to back their cause. Abolish the NOAA.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:22 pm to
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I never publicly comment on political matters because they are usually irrelevant to my work of providing hurricane data and forecasts to people in my personal capacity. Today though, it is highly relevant, and as a member of the meteorological community, I am angry.

Planned or ongoing bulk workforce cuts would irreparably harm the National Weather Service, NOAA, and their scientists who save innumerable lives by warning people in advance of tornadoes, hurricanes, wildfires, tsunamis, blizzards, and other life-threatening hazards. Many of you reading this may knowingly or unknowingly be alive today because of their work, or know someone who is. As a direct consequence of wounding the NWS and NOAA, the public would be less safe.

My personal mission to bring hurricane science, data, and forecasts to the public would not be possible without the weather observations, doppler radar stations, computer models, hurricane hunter aircraft, and weather satellites provided by NOAA and the NWS. Your favorite weather apps, TV meteorologists, and private weather companies would also be unable to function without this data or the civil servants who live and breathe it to synthesize it into public safety information.

All of these benefits cost each taxpayer the equivalent of a few cups of coffee per year, and surveys show most would be willing to pay much more. The American weather enterprise saves many, many times more money than it costs to run, making it one of the biggest bangs for your buck in the government. The impact of quality weather forecasts and infrastructure on society is multiplied many-fold by preventing economic disruptions, keeping public transportation efficient, and providing lead time to prepare for and mitigate disasters. Most importantly, it saves priceless lives.

Careful, long-term plans to streamline or reorient the weather enterprise in an evolving world are not bad, but *this plan* is insane. A feverish rush to take a cleaver to this workforce is self-destructive and dangerous to Americans who rely on the services they provide. It also cuts off the legs of young, passionate scientists who represent the future of meteorology in the new age of AI and other emerging technologies -- the very people we need in the field right now.

As a part of this community since the age of 8 when I began analyzing hurricanes with dial-up internet, I am heartbroken and concerned by what appears to be planned or already in motion. It also directly impacts my friends and family. I cannot be silent, despite knowing I do myself no favors by speaking out. I ask you to join me in advocating for @NWS and @NOAA if you value their work or the work that I am able to do because of them. There are many ways to make your voice heard.

That's all for now, thanks for reading.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
3107 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:23 pm to
The little weather fricks are tweaking hard up in here


Everything gonna be OK guys. Not having a multibillion dollar funding liability to give mediocre forecasts and scream at us about how we're killing the planet by being alive will be just fine.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21651 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:48 pm to
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Like who?

You really think cutting a third of a federal government department will mean "no one is watching"?
Posted by toratiger
susukino
Member since Aug 2008
2996 posts
Posted on 2/26/25 at 4:51 pm to
Does NOAA push global warming?
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