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re: It's Still Kiddie Porn Even if it's AI Generated - Wisconsin Arrest
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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so we know what we can do
I know what we can do
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:26 pm to fr33manator
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I know what we can do
Shooting victims of sexual assault?
Weird flex, but OK.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:29 pm to B1rdman15
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Grown adults who want to have sex with kids have a problem that shouldn't be addressed by letting someone have their needs met artificially.
Same argument as drug addicts, giving them a place and the tools to safely get high isn't going to prevent and overdose. Although it's a very interesting argument, if there is no victim, i.e. a real actual person, there could be ways out of being convicted. I don't have a dog in the fight, and people that are fricked up are fricked up, but the arguments for and against would be astounding.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
That's like excusing violence because they were victims of violence at some point.
Once you cross certain lines, as an adult...
Like you said, the recidivism rates are so high.
Victims who become perpetrators lose the excuse.
Once you cross certain lines, as an adult...
Like you said, the recidivism rates are so high.
Victims who become perpetrators lose the excuse.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:31 pm to Shexter
As much as I think anyone who watches AI kiddie porn should be shot, I don’t understand how art which doesn’t use real humans can be illegal.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:31 pm to fr33manator
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Once you cross certain lines, as an adult...
My post was very specific to non-offending adults.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You see it all the time with the "MAP" label, which is a term used to start to normalizing studying what you are discussing
They can still be studied if they're called pedophiles.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:32 pm to Shexter
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It's Still Kiddie Porn Even if it's AI Generated
Yes.
Now somebody go throw this fricker off a building somewhere.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:34 pm to jchamil
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They can still be studied if they're called pedophiles.
They're only pedophiles once they cross the line from non-offending to offending, and there is a population of non-offending MAP-types, and I'd bet a majority of this population are the victims of sexual assault. Again, my post was very clear on this.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:34 pm to SixthAndBarone
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As much as I think anyone who watches AI kiddie porn should be shot, I don’t understand how art which doesn’t use real humans can be illegal.
It would fall under the same category as if a human drew it, no?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're only pedophiles once they cross the line from non-offending to offending,
Wrong. You might want to look up the definition of pedophile, pedophilia, etc
You're making yourself look bad, but par for the course I guess
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:37 pm to SixthAndBarone
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As much as I think anyone who watches AI kiddie porn should be shot, I don’t understand how art which doesn’t use real humans can be illegal.
There is Supreme Court precednet on this from 20+ years ago
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The court ruled the “virtual pornography” law violated free speech rights. The ruling is a blow to the Justice Department, which in March launched “Operation Candyman,” designed to crackdown on Internet-based child pornography.
The 1996 law addressed advanced computer imaging technology enabling the manipulation of non-sexual images of children into images of them engaging in sex acts. Under the law, producing or selling such pornography was punishable by up to 15 years in prison, while possession was punishable by up to five years.
Pornographers and mainstream filmmakers are hailing the ruling as a victory. Critics had said that such a wide ban could make it a crime to depict simulated sex scenes, such as those in the movies “Traffic” and “Lolita.”
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:39 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Wrong. You might want to look up the definition of pedophile, pedophilia, etc
You're making yourself look bad, but par for the course I guess
OK, we can use your version of the defintion.
Why do you want to stigmatize the population of non-offending sexual abuse victims who want to have a treatment for the effects of their abuse?
What good does stigmatizing them do? What good does stigmatizing research to find treatments for this do?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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OK, we can use your version of the defintion
It's not my definition, it's THE definition
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Why do you want to stigmatize the population of non-offending sexual abuse victims who want to have a treatment for the effects of their abuse?
You have no proof of them being sexual abuse victims. Are there some? Probably. Is it a verifiable fact that all or even most are? Not in the least
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What good does stigmatizing them do? What good does stigmatizing research to find treatments for this do?
I don't want to stigmatize them, I want to kill them
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:43 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You have no proof of them being sexual abuse victims.
This population exists.
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Is it a verifiable fact that all are even most are? Not in the least
Well, you know, if doing objective science on this are was permissible and not stigmatized, we'd likely have a much more concrete answer.
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I don't want to stigmatize them, I want to kill them
Emotional thinking
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Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:44 pm to Shexter
Yeah, of course he's a sick pos and belongs buried. But this is interesting. The thought of AI child pron never occurred to me.
I agree with what the DA said about CSAM. But how do you have a crime without a victim? Very interesting.
I didn't know that. That's perfectly good with me. Doesn't some of that Japanese Anime have some pretty damn young looking kids doing sexual stuff though?
I agree with what the DA said about CSAM. But how do you have a crime without a victim? Very interesting.
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mean hasn't it always been? I thought even animated underage porn was illegal. And if so why wouldn't it apply to AI generated images?
I didn't know that. That's perfectly good with me. Doesn't some of that Japanese Anime have some pretty damn young looking kids doing sexual stuff though?
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:45 pm to Eighteen
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I’m always so torn on this debate. Same thing with child sex dolls. It’s obviously creepy as frick and I want these dudes in jail, but if they can get off on fake pictures and fake dolls and it saves them from ever needing the “real” thing then it’s a good thing overall for society.
Still not sure where I stand on it
Let me settle the matter for you. It’s obvious these sick fricks are attracted to kids. We know there is no fixing them. And we know these sick pictures and toys will satisfy their sick urges only so long before they want the real thing. Thus, they, like all of these sick pedos should be put down like the animals they are.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Well, you know, if doing objective science on this are was permissible and not stigmatized, we'd likely have a much more concrete answer.
What science do you want to do? How many men, barring marriage and such, are going to refrain from sleeping with a woman they find attractive if given the opportunity?
You think your "MAPs", with their glaring mental and emotional problems, have more restraint than the average person does?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:47 pm to i am dan
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But how do you have a crime without a victim?
We bend the rules on that in this arena
See: stings where LEO talk to legit pedos online and pretend to be underage kids. You shouldn't be able to be prosecuted for soliciting sex from an adult, but those prosecutions are permitted.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:48 pm to B1rdman15
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Sitting alone and watching porn/fricking dolls never made anyone better.
These guys are like serial killers-they get off on the thrill of the perverse. Before long, it takes more to satisfy their urges
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