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re: It's Still Kiddie Porn Even if it's AI Generated - Wisconsin Arrest
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:51 pm to SlowFlowPro
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We bend the rules on that in this arena
See: stings where LEO talk to legit pedos online and pretend to be underage kids. You shouldn't be able to be prosecuted for soliciting sex from an adult, but those prosecutions are permitted.
What are those people actually charged with? Is it siliticitation of a minor or is it a more serious charge?
I don't know how serious silicitation is.. what kind of jail time that gets..
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:52 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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What science do you want to do?
Figuring out a better idea of total populations. The subset of the total who are offending/non-offending. The subset of both of those who are victims.
Identifying causes, triggers, treatments, etc. to provide avenues to help these people, especially the non-offending ones.
Developing methods to spot archetypes, abuse, characteristics, markers, etc. of children to start treatment early (which is pretty universal in treatment effects.
It's the same with all pathologies. Study what they are, who is affected, how to identify likely victims of the pathology, and how to fix it.
Why there is such a resistance to working on treatments (up to potential cures) is always a weird thing. People would rather have pedos roam the earth rather than help society fix the problem. It boggles the mind.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:52 pm to Eighteen
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but if they can get off on fake pictures and fake dolls and it saves them from ever needing the “real” thing then it’s a good thing overall for society.
That’s not how it works. It will keep escalating.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:53 pm to i am dan
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What are those people actually charged with? Is it siliticitation of a minor or is it a more serious charge?
Depends on the state, but usually it's a form of solicitation of a minor.
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I don't know how serious silicitation is.. what kind of jail time that gets..
It's a legit sex crime that will get you on the registry and likely time in jail.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:55 pm to Darth_Vader
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We know there is no fixing them.
Fact: we do not know there is no fixing them, and developing a treatment plan to do reach this goal is almost impossible due to emotional reacts, similar to this thread.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Why there is such a resistance to working on treatments (up to potential cures) is always a weird thing. People would rather have pedos roam the earth rather than help society fix the problem.
I already mentioned a way it can be fixed.
Since you think there is a cure for this, you must also be OK with parents trying to turn their gay kids straight, y'know since sexualities are apparently pliable
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:57 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I already mentioned a way it can be fixed.
You did not.
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Since you think there is a cure for this, you must also be OK with parents trying to turn their gay kids straight,
How high are you?
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:57 pm to Shexter
Kill him mostly dead... let him lay in pain for a good long while until he's completely dead.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:58 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:04 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:58 pm to SlowFlowPro
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How high are you?
Not at all.
I'm not the one in here stumping for people who want to frick kids
Posted on 5/22/24 at 4:58 pm to jrobic4
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These guys are like serial killers-they get off on the thrill of the perverse. Before long, it takes more to satisfy their urges
That's how I feel. Seems scary to excite them with images. They would eventually need the real thing maybe...
There's a good, realistic movie about this topic called The Woodsman with Kevin Bacon. Actually a very good movie if I remember correctly. He is what you guys are calling a non- offender.
I've heard pedophilia is like drug addiction. You are never free from it. Never cured. It's a sickness. They will always have the urge.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:00 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I'm not the one in here stumping for people who want to frick kids
I'm promoting a path to treatment, brother.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:00 pm to Shexter
I'm surprised the dems are going after this.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
So castrate them. Reasonable treatment
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:02 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I'm promoting a path to treatment, brother.
Whatever makes you sleep at night. To anyone else whose mom didn't have some sort of dependency while pregnant, you are stumping for people who want to frick kids
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:02 pm to fr33manator
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So castrate them. Reasonable treatment
Still leaves them a dick, dude. Castration is just losing your nuts.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:06 pm to i am dan
I'm well aware of what words mean.
The testes drive a significant portion of the urges as well as function.
Further maiming the genitals of someone, who had committed no crime, who voluntarily sought treatment for their condition would just be cruel.
The testes drive a significant portion of the urges as well as function.
Further maiming the genitals of someone, who had committed no crime, who voluntarily sought treatment for their condition would just be cruel.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:08 pm to Shexter
It’s weird as hell to watch, but I don’t understand how it can be illegal.
And once you make virtual child porn illegal, how are you going to determine whether a picture looks like it’s of a fictional 18 year old or a fictional 17 year old? Yeah, this particular guy seems like he was watching porn of fictional 6 year olds, but once you outlaw virtual porn of anybody under 18 then you’re eventually going to run into the issue of whether a porn picture looks like it’s of a fictional underage girl. In child porn cases with real human victims, the victim’s age can be attested through their birth certificate. But these virtual child porn figures are not going to have birth certificates that show their age.
And once you make virtual child porn illegal, how are you going to determine whether a picture looks like it’s of a fictional 18 year old or a fictional 17 year old? Yeah, this particular guy seems like he was watching porn of fictional 6 year olds, but once you outlaw virtual porn of anybody under 18 then you’re eventually going to run into the issue of whether a porn picture looks like it’s of a fictional underage girl. In child porn cases with real human victims, the victim’s age can be attested through their birth certificate. But these virtual child porn figures are not going to have birth certificates that show their age.
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:13 pm to fr33manator
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So castrate them. Reasonable treatment
For a non-offender?
Very reasonable.
Posted on 5/22/24 at 5:13 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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To anyone else whose mom didn't have some sort of dependency while pregnant, you are stumping for people who want to frick kids
Yeah, to develop treatments so that they hopefully stop.
You don't wan them to stop? Why is that?
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