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re: It's Happening!!! The St. George trial started Monday, May 2. Media stopped covering 5/10.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:51 pm to Icansee4miles
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:51 pm to Icansee4miles
That doesn’t even go into the huge goddamn white elephant that was the downtown branch which just got built.
Tons of money spent on a branch no one really wanted with a design student’s orgasm of architecture that was so flawed it needed to be fixed before they could finish construction.
The storefront library on Third between Main and Florida, which served as a long term temporary branch during construction, did as good a job as that one without costing an arm and a leg.
Tons of money spent on a branch no one really wanted with a design student’s orgasm of architecture that was so flawed it needed to be fixed before they could finish construction.
The storefront library on Third between Main and Florida, which served as a long term temporary branch during construction, did as good a job as that one without costing an arm and a leg.
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Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:54 pm to shawnlsu
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Y'all don't leave out Tarsha and the COA. They got a swanky new office and are building a state of the art vehicle maintenance building for all of those new vans they just bought.
That was a 10-year millage. If you guys vote to renew it (or replace it with something else) after all their shite that's been exposed then I'll just laugh.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:59 pm to TeddyPadillac
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You know this for a fact are you just assuming?
B/c there's a millage for the general fund, and people in St. george don't pay it. What makes you assume this parish tax goes into the general fund?
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are you including the Siegen and Bluebonnet areas and Laburge in this sales tax figure, b/c that would be a bit dishonest of you to use that figure if so considering that area won't be part of St. George and i'm sure makes up a nice percentage of that number?
Dude you don’t need to take the OT’s word for it - just listen to what SWB and her associates are saying. The city/parish is telling you that incorporation of St. George would result in a massive hit to their operating budget.
If St. George tax revenues are all allocated for services in St. George, why would the city be so concerned about their operating budget?
The quote in the OP from Murphy Paul says that they were asked to develop a plan for a 20% budget cut if St. George were to incorporate. BRPD doesn’t have jurisdiction outside the city limits.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:04 pm to Hulkklogan
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I don't know what BREC parks you're going to but BR has a great park system.
They do have lots of parks, and i agree there are some nice parts about BREC, but i'm specifically talking about the fields for sports. They are an embarrassment when compared to the other sports complexes in southeast LA.
and i shouldn't be paying for the zoo. If the Zoo can't operate off it's on revenue and donations, then it should close down. Same goes for their new water parks, and same goes for the golf courses. None of my tax money should be going towards them annually. Either be self sufficient or sell to a private entity or close down.
I don't think theres a more mismanaged entity of the EBR gov't than BREC, and that's saying a lot when you have the council on aging going up against it.
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That and Library system.
Libraries are outdated and need to stop existing. Every school in the country has a library. There is ZERO need for a public library in this century. If you want to read as an adult, buy your own fricking book. Barnes and Nobles are going out of business, but we still have gov't backed libraries. and don't give me the "it's a place to gather and they have programs" BS. It's a complete waste of money.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:24 pm to TeddyPadillac
Libraries are monuments built to satisfy people that can’t read.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:28 pm to jbgleason
What going on today at the trial?
Any updates?
Any updates?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:29 pm to TeddyPadillac
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They do have lots of parks, and i agree there are some nice parts about BREC, but i'm specifically talking about the fields for sports.
They could care less about baseball and softball.
I can’t speak about the other sports, but if they are like the ball diamonds then they are terrible too.
BREC has a huge budget and a large work force. Are they efficient? Who really knows. They are practically untouchable.
The same thing applies to the libraries. They build these swank buildings and when you ask questions they act as if you are opposed to teaching kids how to read.
EBR spends a lot of money on the nice stuff and the good, drainage and trash stuff gets short changed.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 2:35 pm to doubleb
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Go read the CP budget. It’s all there.
Is it now ?
Your might be surprised what an intelligent person can do with an Excel spreadsheet.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 3:37 pm to doubleb
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BREC has a huge budget and a large work force. Are they efficient? Who really knows. They are practically untouchable.
over 1/3 of their expenses come in the form of salary and benefits. Little higher than normal when it comes to how much you should be spending on payroll.
They'd probably be better served having less employees, and paying them better b/c they actually do a good job.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:42 pm to doubleb
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EBR spends a lot of money on the nice stuff and the good, drainage and trash stuff gets short changed.
...because it's run by complete retards.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:49 pm to doubleb
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The same thing applies to the libraries. They build these swank buildings and when you ask questions they act as if you are opposed to teaching kids how to read.
Ask questions about what?
BREC and DPW can spend their money how they want as long as their supervisors and, ultimately, metro council approves. The library’s money is managed differently - it has to be approved by the library board and metro council, and they don’t always see eye to eye.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:50 pm to jbgleason
If the people in St George were told that if they stop trying to incorporate St George as its own city SWB would agree to step down ASAP what would the majority of the people do?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:52 pm to OweO
Incorporate because the problems to be fixed go well beyond an idiot mayor.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:03 pm to GreenRockTiger
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Ask questions about what?
BREC and DPW can spend their money how they want as long as their supervisors and, ultimately, metro council approves. The library’s money is managed differently - it has to be approved by the library board and metro council, and they don’t always see eye to eye.
You ask them why do they have such a large surplus?
Why do we have to have s Downtown Library?
Why do they spend so much money on art decorations?
Could they do well with less so taxes could be diverted to cops of drainage, etc?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:21 pm to doubleb
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You ask them why do they have such a large surplus?
Bc the metro council and library board do not always see eye to eye on how to spend the money, so it sits
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Why do we have to have s Downtown Library?
Because it actually gets used, and real cities have downtown libraries. Just because you do not use it, does not mean it shouldn’t exist. The downtown library is used more than a few other branches - but no one ever questions their existence.
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Why do they spend so much money on art decorations?
What are you talking about? What art decorations? Plus, this is probably an approved expenditure.
quote:it’s an appropriated millage - only for libraries, to be used for other means it would have to be put up for a vote to the people. The city/parish cannot just take library money and use it for something else. I’m surprised it hasn’t been ‘stolen’ yet.
Could they do well with less so taxes could be diverted to cops of drainage, etc?
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:24 pm to GreenRockTiger
The reason the downtown library gets shite on is that the number of people downtown who would use it is pretty damn low.
The prior one was mainly used for holding jury panels awaiting a case and for homeless people to watch internet porn.
If you have to use money, use it in a damn way that makes sense.
Downtown is pretty much a ghost town past 5PM and on weekends unless you go drinking on Third Street and a lot of those places have been hit hard since SWB took office.
The prior one was mainly used for holding jury panels awaiting a case and for homeless people to watch internet porn.
If you have to use money, use it in a damn way that makes sense.
Downtown is pretty much a ghost town past 5PM and on weekends unless you go drinking on Third Street and a lot of those places have been hit hard since SWB took office.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:25 pm to doubleb
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Why do they spend so much money on art decorations?
That was actually our genius legislators.
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The Percent for Art law, enacted in 1999, stipulates that whenever more than $2 million in state funds is to be spent by a state agency for the construction or renovation of a state building, 1 percent of the state money shall be expended for the project to acquire, conserve, or restore and install works of art for display in, on, or on the grounds of the state building.
This shite is talked about on every large public project but only the library system actually does it for every project. From what I've heard the biggest issue is finding qualified artists from Louisiana to provide art that jives with the building and I know they have used non-resident artists as well.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:29 pm to junkfunky
EBR libraries aren't state funds or a state agency, though.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:36 pm to teke184
You don’t go to downtown BR or use the library, I get it.
Posted on 5/3/22 at 5:41 pm to GreenRockTiger
I work in downtown BR. I actually used the one on Third Street that was there several years while the white elephant was being worked on.
My point is that whenever offices down there are not open (holidays, Covid, weekends, evenings), the area is fricking dead.
My point is that whenever offices down there are not open (holidays, Covid, weekends, evenings), the area is fricking dead.
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