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re: It's getting tough to defend police. Threatning to take kid at traffic stop
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:49 am to bigrob385series
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:49 am to bigrob385series
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not given permission to search.
And sat there for another hour or so while he called for back up and brought drug dogs. We decided this was the route that would result on our rights being trampled on the least since we didn't have anything to hide.
However, my point is the officer should have not even pressured my friend into consenting to a search for such a minor violation. Especially since he walked up to the car and saw five kids all wearing purple and gold on the road to Auburn. It was clear we weren't running drugs, he just decided to give us a hard time and maybe get an easy bust for marijuana possession. This is just one minor step in a dangerous trend that is obvious to anyone with an objective mind.
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Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:50 am to KosmoCramer
Oh--the police will say it is, and the courts will agree, but it's not a Terry Stop.
What a disgusting rule of law that was, by the way; it's opened the door for much of this.
What a disgusting rule of law that was, by the way; it's opened the door for much of this.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:50 am to Seymour
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We decided this was the route that would result on our rights being trampled on the least since we didn't have anything to hide.
This is a complete contradiction.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:52 am to The Third Leg
Why do we keep singing the songs about "the land of the free" and all that?
Seems to me, with warrantless searches, the Patriot Act, this, etc. the words needs to be changed to "the land of the semi-free."
Seems to me, with warrantless searches, the Patriot Act, this, etc. the words needs to be changed to "the land of the semi-free."
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:53 am to The Third Leg
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What a disgusting rule of law that was, by the way; it's opened the door for much of this.
To an extent, yes. But if enforced correctly, Terry gives people a right to exercise their 4th amendment rights more clearly.
This is an utter disrespect of Terry v. Ohio, which is ironic considering this took place around 60 miles from where Terry occurred in 1963.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:54 am to KosmoCramer
You know what I'm trying to say. Why sit there even longer just to prove a point? The point shouldn't even have to be made.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:55 am to KosmoCramer
Here's Terry:
You look like a suspect in a robbery, I need to search you.
No.
Sir, I will take you to jail if you don't let me search you.
Okay.
You look like a suspect in a robbery, I need to search you.
No.
Sir, I will take you to jail if you don't let me search you.
Okay.
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:55 am to Seymour
Oh I agree. It's total bullshite.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:56 am to Traffic Circle
quote:Because Murica that's why.
Why do we keep singing the songs about "the land of the free" and all that?
Seems to me, with warrantless searches, the Patriot Act, this, etc. the words needs to be changed to "the land of the semi-free."
This post was edited on 10/6/14 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/6/14 at 9:58 am to The Third Leg
The stop and frisk aspect of Terry is really bad because it's used as a tactic by police to find probably cause.
NYC uses Terry to randomly stop and frisk and it's a publicized strategy that the NYC PD admits to.
It's unbelievable.
Well, it's believable just utterly a middle finger to the 4th amendment.
NYC uses Terry to randomly stop and frisk and it's a publicized strategy that the NYC PD admits to.
It's unbelievable.
Well, it's believable just utterly a middle finger to the 4th amendment.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:00 am to meauxjeaux2
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What?! The land of the free? Whoever told you that is your enemy.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:02 am to Seymour
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Especially since he walked up to the car and saw five kids all wearing purple and gold on the road to Auburn.
That's why you got pulled over, Champ. I joked about this a week or so ago in a thread about Alabama now allowing out of state universities to have vanity plates.
frick that noise...may as well get used to being pulled over.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:02 am to meauxjeaux2
All of you cop bashers really grind my gears. Spouting off without knowing the facts. You people don't realize important information to put this into context. If you actually researched all of the pertinent information you wouldn't come off like complete nimrods on here. What a bunch of hacks!
The guy was a bama fan and the police wanted to tackle him.
The guy was a bama fan and the police wanted to tackle him.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:04 am to KosmoCramer
I've railed on the NYC stop and frisk program repeatedly on here. People give not one frick; they like their rights, not the rights of others. In fact, many think it's amusing to watch others lose their rights.
This kind of shite borders on insane at this point, and it is largely because of laws like Terry mixed with an uneducated police force taught to stop and arrest, letting the courts sort it all out; which, to circle back to your earlier point, is the perfect setup for a class of poors who will be defended by fifty dollar an hour legal failures.
This kind of shite borders on insane at this point, and it is largely because of laws like Terry mixed with an uneducated police force taught to stop and arrest, letting the courts sort it all out; which, to circle back to your earlier point, is the perfect setup for a class of poors who will be defended by fifty dollar an hour legal failures.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:09 am to The Third Leg
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mixed with an uneducated police force taught to stop and arrest, letting the courts sort it all out; which, to circle back to your earlier
This is how they sleep at night. And it's part of the reason we have the inequality issue in our jails and prisons. Higher numbers of minorities are targeted and don't have the resources to fight the illegal charges. And the fact that it's a he said, she said situation.
All interactions with law enforcement need to be videoed. I honestly applaud this guy. It took some balls to excercise his rights with his 2 week old child with him in the face of unbelievably illegal police activity. I'm trying to find this guy's contact information, I want to send him an encoraging letter and try to find out where people can donate a little for lawyers fees. I think the ACLU will represent this guy though.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:10 am to LT
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:12 am to KosmoCramer
I love how the cop keeps talking about driving without lights while the sun beams behind him in the video. Many headlight laws are tethered to official sunrise and sundown hours, perhaps Ohio is not.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:14 am to meauxjeaux2
The passenger better look like the identical f*cking twin of the guy who has the supposed warrant out on him, or this cop is in deep sh!t. And the passenger is going to come into a good deal of $$$$$'s.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:18 am to meauxjeaux2
Link wouldn't work for me, dammit I wanted to get all upset too.
Posted on 10/6/14 at 10:22 am to bencoleman
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dammit I wanted to get all upset too.
Just look at your wife in the shower tonight.
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