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re: It is a mathematical certainty that alien life forms exist
Posted on 10/7/23 at 12:40 pm to Corinthians420
Posted on 10/7/23 at 12:40 pm to Corinthians420
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wrong.
In outer space, with no atmosphere, radio waves propagate in straight lines. In the earth's troposphere, radio waves are bent, due to interactions with the bounded electrons in air molecules. Refraction is generally the most important effect on radar propagation, communications and other Rf systems.
so imagine how perfectly placed an object would have to be for us to send a radio wave in outer space to the nearest star and hit something that far away.
I mean, if you pick out an object before hand, sure. But it's going to hit *something* eventually. Radio transmitters can be directional but it's not like a laser beam. A planet with a significant number of intelligent radio sources will be emitting *something* in every direction from the planet.
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Posted on 10/7/23 at 12:52 pm to gizmoflak
There's not a single doubt in my mind that there is intelligent life out there somewhere and I also don't doubt that it is far more advanced than we currently are.
I feel it's pretty preposterous to think out of all the stars with planets orbiting them that Earth is the only one with what passes for intelligent life.
I feel it's pretty preposterous to think out of all the stars with planets orbiting them that Earth is the only one with what passes for intelligent life.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:03 pm to gumbo2176
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There's not a single doubt in my mind that there is intelligent life out there somewhere and I also don't doubt that it is far more advanced than we currently are.
This would make sense if more intelligence always meant a higher ability to survive. There's no reason to assume that though. If you've raised a toddler, there's a point at which their increasing intelligence level actually makes them more likely to get themselves killed. The same may be true of intelligent civilization.
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feel it's pretty preposterous to think out of all the stars with planets orbiting them that Earth is the only one with what passes for intelligent life.
You have to consider the time involved. If intelligent life came into being rather frequently, but snuffed itself out within a few hundreds years of first sending radio signals, then intelligent life *at any given moment in time* would be very rare.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 1:07 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:45 pm to SpidermanTUba
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You have to consider the time involved. If intelligent life came into being rather frequently, but snuffed itself out within a few hundreds years of first sending radio signals, then intelligent life *at any given moment in time* would be very rare.
Yep. More likely to meet machine than intelligent life (as we know it)
When u get into other dimensions though I guess that's not true.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 1:52 pm to Corinthians420
The Drake Equation can be manipulated to your hearts content.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 3:11 pm to blueridgeTiger
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The Drake Equation can be manipulated to your hearts content.
thats true enough. I just think that life is not as rare as we think. I honestly think it has probably sprung up on earth in a different way but the life that was already here devoured it before it stood a chance.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 3:37 pm to gizmoflak
Wouldn’t it be awesome if New Mexico got a pro sports franchise and the mascot was aliens
Posted on 10/7/23 at 3:41 pm to S
Wally Joyner
Posted on 10/7/23 at 3:43 pm to Paul Allen
Siddeeq Shabazz
Posted on 10/7/23 at 4:50 pm to blueridgeTiger
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The Drake Equation can be manipulated to your hearts content
Which is blown away (maybe) by the simulation hypothesis. Maybe the simulators don't want to simulate multiple intelligence species.
There are endless potential explanations for lack of observation of intelligent life. Sagan proposed it could be that it's just rare for intelligent life to exist on the same spatial and temporal scales as humans. Maybe the universe is full of life forms that think a million times slower - or faster - than humans, in which case it would be hard for us to recognize signals from that life as intelligent. Or maybe broadcast with electromagnetic waves is just way primitive and we aren't too far off ourselves from broadcasting with neutrinos.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 4:51 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 4:51 pm to gizmoflak
At one time Man believed :
The Earth was flat.
All the planets and stars (including the Sun) orbited the Earth.
The Earth rested on a turtle's back.
Space was made up of Ether.
Galileo caught Hell for showing that the Sun had spots on it.
It took Edwin Hubble's discovery in 1925 to show that nebulae were actually other galaxies not part of our Milky Way galaxy. (he grew our idea of the size of the Universe overnight)
There are still people that believe that rocket motors will not work in space.
At one time Man believed :
Women should not ride horses.
If anyone traveled faster than 25 mph it would cause organ failure.
Man could never fly.
Man could never fly faster than the speed of sound.
Man could not live in Space. (who will be the first child born on the Moon, remember Virginia Dare? ).
Mankind is myopic, paranoid , selfish, superstitious and narcissistic. To believe that God would only create one intelligent species in the entire Universe is ridiculous. Why would God waste all that Space ? Most families have more than one child, why not God ?
Intelligent species who have conquered intergalactic travel are just not interested in us. They don't use radio waves to communicate with. Is the world really interested on what's going on in Evergreen Louisiana ?
Beings who have travelled through space for millions of years have probably evolved to the point of interdimensional travel and live in the Spaces between space.
Pro Tip: If Mankind does not evolve past the need for War our species will be extinct soon.
The Earth was flat.
All the planets and stars (including the Sun) orbited the Earth.
The Earth rested on a turtle's back.
Space was made up of Ether.
Galileo caught Hell for showing that the Sun had spots on it.
It took Edwin Hubble's discovery in 1925 to show that nebulae were actually other galaxies not part of our Milky Way galaxy. (he grew our idea of the size of the Universe overnight)
There are still people that believe that rocket motors will not work in space.
At one time Man believed :
Women should not ride horses.
If anyone traveled faster than 25 mph it would cause organ failure.
Man could never fly.
Man could never fly faster than the speed of sound.
Man could not live in Space. (who will be the first child born on the Moon, remember Virginia Dare? ).
Mankind is myopic, paranoid , selfish, superstitious and narcissistic. To believe that God would only create one intelligent species in the entire Universe is ridiculous. Why would God waste all that Space ? Most families have more than one child, why not God ?
Intelligent species who have conquered intergalactic travel are just not interested in us. They don't use radio waves to communicate with. Is the world really interested on what's going on in Evergreen Louisiana ?
Beings who have travelled through space for millions of years have probably evolved to the point of interdimensional travel and live in the Spaces between space.
Pro Tip: If Mankind does not evolve past the need for War our species will be extinct soon.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 5:26 pm to SantaFe
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Mankind is myopic, paranoid , selfish, superstitious and narcissistic. To believe that God would only create one intelligent species in the entire Universe is ridiculous. Why would God waste all that Space ? Most families have more than one child, why not God ?
You said it yourself. Man is "myopic, paranoid , selfish, superstitious and narcissistic". Do you honestly think a species like that will last very long ? Intelligent species probably come into existence all over the place. They just aren't around very long.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:45 pm to gizmoflak
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The odds that none of those stars supports planets having intelligible life forms is virtually zero.
Hmm…We act like if there is another planet out there with conditions similar to earth then we would find life, and statistically there has to be something similar to earth.However, until we understand how life is created from non-life I’m not so sure anything is alive out there.
This post was edited on 10/7/23 at 6:47 pm
Posted on 10/7/23 at 6:56 pm to gizmoflak
In the vastness of space,
Where stars twinkle and shine,
There are worlds beyond ours,
Where life may be entwined.
The universe is so vast,
It's hard to comprehend,
But the possibility of life,
Is something we can't pretend.
For if we look to the stars,
And the planets that we see,
We can't help but wonder,
What else there might be.
So let us keep searching,
For the answers that we seek,
And embrace the possibility,
Of life on other worlds unique.
Where stars twinkle and shine,
There are worlds beyond ours,
Where life may be entwined.
The universe is so vast,
It's hard to comprehend,
But the possibility of life,
Is something we can't pretend.
For if we look to the stars,
And the planets that we see,
We can't help but wonder,
What else there might be.
So let us keep searching,
For the answers that we seek,
And embrace the possibility,
Of life on other worlds unique.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:05 pm to gizmoflak
I have no doubt there has been intelligent life and will be others...but is there currently intelligent life? Aside from the vastness of space, the frequently overlooked aspect is that our life and the other intelligent life may not overlap timewise.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:06 pm to cssamerican
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until we understand how life is created from non-life I’m not so sure anything is alive out there.
Why would we need to explain how life is created in order to observe it's existence ?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 7:19 pm to SpidermanTUba
quote:Why not? You simulate intelligence frequently...
Maybe the simulators don't want to simulate multiple intelligence species.
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:38 pm to LSURussian
quote:
You simulate intelligence frequently...
What are you simulating ?
Posted on 10/7/23 at 8:40 pm to Locoguan0
quote:
Fermi Paradox
The Great Filter.
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