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re: Israeli Scientist Has Found Cure for Cancer?

Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:19 pm to
Posted by The Great McGinty
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:19 pm to
Someone will turn up dead soon.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:21 pm to
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Israeli Scientist Has Found Cure for Cancer


Praise Jesus.
Posted by Sigma
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3643 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:22 pm to
This is coming from someone who works on cancer for a living...this guys are full of shite. Outside of the ridiculous quotes in the article, the science is full of holes. Don't waste your time
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:23 pm to
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Big Pharm won't let this see the light of day


Big pharma would make a fortune if a universal cure.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
15304 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:23 pm to
I had a buddy that worked at a monkey lab in Missouri. Told me they tested drugs that cured aids several times, but they never saw market. Ifsofacto. pharmaceutical companies are in the business of making money. Not curing disease.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:26 pm to
That's good and all, but they forgot to publish in any major medical journal or explain how they plan on curing several entirely unrelated forms of disease with a single treatment without significant side effects.


This claim, as reported, is cold fusion. Impossible.
Posted by HueyP
Lubbock
Member since Nov 2008
3155 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:26 pm to
Daily Wire my go to medical journal. If it’s in the Daily Wire it has to be true.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:31 pm to
Let’s just hope Iran doesn’t try and nuke Israel before this cure comes to light.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:33 pm to
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I had a buddy that worked at a monkey lab in Missouri. Told me they tested drugs that cured aids several times, but they never saw market. Ifsofacto. pharmaceutical companies are in the business of making money. Not curing disease.



HIV has about 1000 base pairs. It's polymerase is so wildly inaccurate, in 1 day, every single possible mutation that could occur will. In that same day, about half of the possible double-recombinants (two mutations at any given two sites) will occur.
HIV drugs don't work because these "mutants" eventually produce a binding protein that the drug does not bind to and is also viable which eventually takes over.

That is the problem with HIV. That and that the general person who has it (talking worldwide here) is not usually reliable enough to take medication consistently (often through no fault of their own). In the US, the average person with it is far better off than a rural African without access to refrigeration or an IV drug user in Russia.
A motivated individual with access to healthcare in the US could do very well with the disease and essentially never progress from HIV to AIDS. Many are like this. Unfortunately, many more do not care enough about their own health to take medicine that is literally given to them for free, including in combination pill form to make it as easy as possible.

That is why HIV is a problem. Not some hidden cure.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:33 pm to
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As someone with cancer....you have my attention
don't get your hopes up. At best, this is posturing, most likely for grant money or venture capital.
Posted by BigDawg0420
Hamsterdam
Member since Apr 2010
7396 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:37 pm to
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Not this dumbassery again


So you're saying pharmaceutical companies do not have a huge financial incentive to keep selling cancer meds?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:39 pm to
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Big Pharm won't let this see the light of day



Gleevec.


What's gleevec? It's a "Big Pharma" produced monoclonal antibody that literally cures chronic myelogenous leukemia caused by (I think) the 9:22 translocation of a specific tyrosine kinase (BCR-ABL Gene?, maybe...check me on it...but the "Philadelphia chromosome)

It cost a lot. Something like $25K a year, but in checking myself, 2017 pricing puts it at around $100K/year



Pharmaceuticals don't mind charging for good medicine.
Most people don't understand what cancer is or how it works.
Posted by YogaPants
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
4704 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:41 pm to
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This is coming from someone who works on cancer for a living...this guys are full of shite


Care to elaborate?
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:46 pm to
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So you're saying pharmaceutical companies do not have a huge financial incentive to keep selling cancer meds?




Sure they do. Particularly ones that work.


Are you suggesting that all cancers could even possibly have a single cure because we've skipped right past the discovery of all cancers sharing even one common genomic factor (probably worth at least a Nobel Prize to find the idea to be true and another if anyone can build the crystal structure of it...and I'm not joking, that would probably win two Nobel Prizes) and gone straight to the magic bullet without a peep in a scientific journal?
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61136 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:48 pm to
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I had a buddy that worked at a monkey lab in Missouri. Told me they tested drugs that cured aids several times, but they never saw market. Ifsofacto. pharmaceutical companies are in the business of making money. Not curing disease.







Here we go.


I assume this company you're talking about hates money? Because they'd have to hate money to make such stupid decisions.
Posted by Hopeful Doc
Member since Sep 2010
14942 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:52 pm to
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I assume this company you're talking about hates money? Because they'd have to hate money to make such stupid decisions.




I just hope his friend isn't one of the researches. Because if he is, then the company hires retarded researchers.
This post was edited on 1/28/19 at 10:53 pm
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:53 pm to
Before I take your opinion seriously I have to know if you've moved on from "Hopeful Doc" to just "Doc"
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21135 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:54 pm to
Big Pharm is going to have this doc killed
Posted by Spock's Eyebrow
Member since May 2012
12300 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:56 pm to
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Or will be paid big time for his research to go bye bye from pharmaceutical companies. They don’t want a cure


Yet Gilead paid $11 billion to purchase Pharmasset and their Hep C cure. It has since faced several competitors.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78373 posts
Posted on 1/28/19 at 10:58 pm to
My neighbor runs a fairly large pharmaceutical from his tub . Imma ask him his thoughts on this .
-signed Livingston Parish
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