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Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:18 am to
Posted by zzemme
Member since Nov 2008
10489 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:18 am to
I hope Israel kills them all. Hamas is subhuman
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103932 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:18 am to
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tell Saudi it’s time to make a deal or we start blasting Gaza like no one has seen before.


Saudi has no problems with Gaza being flattened.

KSA’s aligned nations are Egypt, Jordan, etc, who are currently in good relations with Israel.

Iran’s aligned nations and shitheads include Gaza / Westbank (Palestinians), Hezbollah (Lebanon), Syria, Iraq, etc.


KSA won’t cut a deal while this is going on but I think they have no problems telling Israel where to hit or making a deal once this has blown over.
Posted by VolInBavaria
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Dec 2015
4682 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:21 am to
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Iran is such a cool country naturally speaking. I wish they'd get their shite together. Would love to visit.


Yep. My fiancés dad is from Iran. I’ve gotten to be around a lot of Iranians because of her family and they’re some of the sweetest, most genuine people I’ve ever met. Never heard a bad thing said about the Persian people. It’s the government that fricking sucks
Posted by Terminal Lance
Member since Oct 2023
97 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:28 am to
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just don’t think Israel’s security will be better in 10 years if they commence a full throated invasion of Gaza now. Normalization with Saudi today may make for a safer Israel in 10 years.


Israel isn’t going to go invade Gaza to make things better 10 years from now. They’re going to invade Gaza for revenge. It’s not anymore complicated than that.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
20196 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:28 am to
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My fiancés dad is from Iran.


Dude, we have rules! And I mean the Fiance’ and not the Dad.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103932 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:33 am to
If Hamas no longer exists, they ARE safer in 10 years.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298927 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:34 am to
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It’s the government that fricking sucks


Prior to Khomeini



Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103932 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:35 am to
My ex boss was in college when a lot of that happened. Apparently she, her twin sister, and numerous other women were getting constantly chased by Iranian students desperate to get married and not get deported when relations broke down.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:40 am to
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What people don’t comprehend the decision matrix includes what happens if the worse case scenario occurs. There is absolutely no way they would send in tier one assets unless it was basically 100% certain that they would not take casualties or be captured.

Edit to add a “not”


Was just responding to ask you to clarify your last sentence and saw your edit.

It's not quite that extreme and risk-averse. From a political perspective, more so; the tactical decision makers, not quite that bad, but it's definitely a cold hard decision.

From the bystanders' perspective, it's "well, why don't we just send in 'special forces' to rescue them." <---- That's not actually an overestimation of capability. That's an overestimation of the probability of success. The capability (and things that are almost certainly happening right now) is way beyond what most people realize...and yet, rescue/recovery is unlikely. THAT's how tough it is to pull it off.
Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
768 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:41 am to
Posted by lsurulz1515
Member since Mar 2007
8251 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:42 am to
Holy shite...dealing with animals
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20049 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:43 am to
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My fiancés dad is from Iran.


Mines not
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103932 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:44 am to
You expected anything less?

That grandmother who got butchered on video and had it uploaded to her Facebook wall where her grandkids saw it should have been a sign for how far they would go.
Posted by msutiger
Houston
Member since Jul 2008
71995 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:51 am to
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Holy shite...dealing with animals


You are doing a disservice to Animals.

And pay attention to those defending the actions of Hamas. Pay attention to those calling for “Peace.” Rest assured these people don’t want peace.
Posted by Burt Orangello
DFW
Member since Sep 2023
638 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:51 am to
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My fiancés dad is from Iran.


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Dude, we have rules! And I mean the Fiance’ and not the Dad.



You take pics of the fiancé.

I'll take pics of the fiancée.

If they're both a fiancé, then they'll probably want to stay out of the Middle East.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39884 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:53 am to
Watching the live feed with audio, you can hear IDF Predators over Gaza scouting for ToO's
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19612 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 11:55 am to
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American special forces arrived in Israel specialized in hostage-free operations. We do not rule out carrying out a special operation to liberate our citizens in Gaza“


I doubt any operations will be successful due to the geography of Gaza (a big arse city with people living on top of each other). Hope I am wrong and I hope all Delta/SEAL operators return home safe.
Posted by Terminal Lance
Member since Oct 2023
97 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:03 pm to
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I doubt any operations will be successful due to the geography of Gaza (a big arse city with people living on top of each other). Hope I am wrong and I hope all Delta/SEAL operators return home safe.


It’s a death trap and there’s almost zero chance of a rescue operation. There’s about 1000% chance that Hamas is now using these prisoners as bait to ambush and kill the rescuers on the off chance that someone is stupid enough to give it a shot. I doubt many, if any, of these hostages make it out alive. Their only hope is some sort of negotiated ransom deal or a trade for Hamas POWs in Israel. And I’m guessing the chance of Israel doing that is about zero.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19612 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:06 pm to
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It’s a death trap and there’s almost zero chance of a rescue operation. There’s about 1000% chance that Hamas is now using these prisoners as bait to ambush and kill the rescuers on the off chance that someone is stupid enough to give it a shot. I doubt many, if any, of these hostages make it out alive. Their only hope is some sort of negotiated ransom deal or a trade for Hamas POWs in Israel. And I’m guessing the chance of Israel doing that is about zero.


Yep. Israel, I suspect, is going to operate under the assumption the hostages are dead. If Hamas thinks the hostages will work as a human shield, they will be wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298927 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 12:07 pm to
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You are doing a disservice to Animals.


Facts. Most animals Ive seen dont kill our babies. Dogs protect them.

You cannot deal with uncivilized people like they have humanity because they do not.
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