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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:37 am to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:37 am to
From last night:

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OSINTdefender @sentdefender · 8h · Doctor Mohammad Abu Salmiya, the Director of the Al-Shifa Medical Center in Northern Gaza alongside several other Senior Medical Officials have reportedly just been Arrested by Israeli Soldiers


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OSINTdefender @sentdefender If I had to guess, I would bet these Arrests are due to recent Evidence that Doctor Salmiya and other Medical Staff at Al-Shifa knew about and likely Aided with the Israeli Hostages taken by Hamas on October 7th which we had already seen in CCTV Footage from the Hospital on that Day.


Also more tunnels have been found near the Shifa Hospital underneath civilian homes:

X/Twitter Video of tunnels.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75100 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 9:43 am to
There is a segment of the populace out there who will tell you that all of this is fabricated by the Jews to make Hamas look bad......down to the IDF actually building the tunnels.
Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
8083 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:36 am to
It’s not in the Palestinian DNA to seek peace.
Ever seen a Palestinian use the word ‘peace?’
The only words they know is ‘jihad’ and ‘holy war.’ Even the rest of the Arab world wants nothing to do with them.
They just want death and destruction. If every single Jew was dead they’d find somebody else to hate and martyr over.
Check out the Hamas Charter.

LINK

While the rest of civilization evolves they are incapable.


Posted by Geekboy
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:42 am to
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This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 11:44 am
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:46 am to
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This post was edited on 12/31/23 at 11:39 pm
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:56 am to
quote:

It’s not in the Palestinian DNA to seek peace.
Ever seen a Palestinian use the word ‘peace?’
The only words they know is ‘jihad’ and ‘holy war.’ Even the rest of the Arab world wants nothing to do with them.
They just want death and destruction. If every single Jew was dead they’d find somebody else to hate and martyr over.
Check out the Hamas Charter.

LINK

While the rest of civilization evolves they are incapable.


This is true. They stir shite wherever they go.

One day they'll be drug kicking and screaming into the 19th century.
Posted by braves21
Member since Sep 2022
1302 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 1:28 pm to
I’ve kept up with this sparingly. Maybe I’m reading this wrong but seems the far left keep backing hamas whereas conservatives back Israel.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 2:09 pm to
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I’ve kept up with this sparingly. Maybe I’m reading this wrong but seems the far left keep backing hamas whereas conservatives back Israel.



If we're speaking in general terms, then no. The Left doesn't back Hamas. They back Palestinians and believe Israel is an oppressor state. They generally draw a distinction between Hamas and the Palestinian people.

The left isn't antisemitic as much as they're Anti-Israel and what they believe are discriminatory, separatist and oppressive governmental policies.

And generally speaking , as far as the right is concerned, to be Palestinian is to automatically back Hamas. This is actually closer to the truth than the opposite. After all, the Palestinian people did elect those savages.

Criticism of Israel however, whether one agrees with it or not isn't antisemitic but to criticize Israel these days is to be antisemitic.

We talk about "protected classes" in the United States. Well Israel is our favored "protected victim".
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Nynna11
Member since Jul 2012
583 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 3:11 pm to
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The left isn't antisemitic as much as they're Anti-Israel and what they believe are discriminatory, separatist and oppressive governmental policies.


Then why are they harassing Jewish students and citizens in the US?
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 3:13 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39897 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:20 pm to
20 minutes past Midnight on Cease Fire Day, and they're still going at it, even more so than the past days.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 4:25 pm to
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Then why are they harassing Jewish students and citizens in the US?


Because in the minds of some, to be Jewish is also to be Israeli or Pro Israel. When in fact, there's lots of American Jews who don't give a shite about Israel at all.

This is why you also see American or European Jews protesting Israel. Lots of Western Jews draw a line between their religion and the Country of Israel. They're not the same.

Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78366 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 5:44 pm to
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Lots of Western Jews draw a line between their religion and the Country of Israel. They're not the same.



Seems most non-zionist westernized Jews tend to see Jewish not as their religion, but only as their ethnicity. Which is easy to understand.

Obviously exceptions to the rule.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 5:45 pm
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24855 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:34 pm to
Appears not all the Muslim factions agreed to it
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:44 pm to
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Appears not all the Muslim factions agreed to it


Some have left the reservation. This is why if you can wheel and deal a little to get a few of these hostages back now, you do it. Leadership structure seems to be crumbling.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 6:49 pm
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78366 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 6:53 pm to
Or whoever was wheeling and dealing didn't have 50 prisoners.

Or when the criteria shifted to live hostages all of a sudden they crawfished.
This post was edited on 11/23/23 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Wishnitwas1998
where TN, MS, and AL meet
Member since Oct 2010
64515 posts
Posted on 11/23/23 at 11:22 pm to
At first when I saw the page count I thought damn what happened that's a lot to catch up on but then I quickly realized that if I just ignored any post by Pandy or in response to him I'd catch up pretty quickly
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70614 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 12:38 am to
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At first when I saw the page count I thought damn what happened that's a lot to catch up on but then I quickly realized that if I just ignored any post by Pandy or in response to him I'd catch up pretty quickly


I've reached the point where when I see he's posted something, I just assume it's incorrect and move on.

No point in reading or downvoting or anything.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73064 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 2:54 am to
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They've been holding children without trial or proof. That's not supposed to be a Western value.


A: Break down their ages for me. How many were actual children and how many were fighting-age teenagers.

B: You can legally hold someone while waiting for trial.

C: Link me how you know, for a fact, that there is zero proof.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75100 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:36 am to
It is being reported that thirteen hostages have just been released. Today's total is supposed to be 25, 13 Israelis and 12 Thai.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/24/23 at 8:43 am to
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It is being reported that thirteen hostages have just been released. Today's total is supposed to be 25, 13 Israelis and 12 Thai.


Yeah I read the same. Israel will release 39 low level shite stirrers in exchange for them. It's a pretty good deal.

Somebody, somewhere deserves a promotion for this. Not bad. Not bad at all.

It's a tenuous situation though. I just hope it holds out and they can get as many of these folks out as they can.
This post was edited on 11/24/23 at 8:50 am
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