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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:16 am to
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:16 am to
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?? The start of a four-day humanitarian pause in the Gaza Strip will be announced within 24 hours, Qatar's Foreign Ministry said.

Israel releases list of 300 Palestinian prisoners for exchange with Hamas

287 of them are guys 18 years old or younger. The remaining 13 are adult women.

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Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2231 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:36 am to
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If this Administration takes any credit for this deal the value of US hostages shoots up immensely. Hamas will then will try to leverage the rest of the US citizens to force the United States to pressure Israel even more. This is right up hamas's alley this is what he do. They need to take the W and move on and not play domestic politics with it.



It's a good thing that the administration doesn't really care about US hostages.

They're only trying to appease their base which for some reason has decided to ride for a terrorist group.


It'll be interesting to see if Hamas actually comes up with 50 hostages considering how much difficulty they have had in the past finding them
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17131 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 10:45 am to
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TBH I would not blink if Israel declared war on the UN & started taking them out


I would support. I believe we should completely withdraw from the UN and deport all their ambassadors.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:10 am to
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here's the potential problem we might face now with these numbers, even though absolutely this deal had to be made if it could be made. If you could save any lives you save. But, if this Administration brags, parades around about "I did this", crows about the US pressuring Israel into this, or anything of the sort where they claim this isn't just an Israel- Hamas brokered deal then the chances of getting any other us hostages goes down significantly.

If this Administration takes any credit for this deal the value of US hostages shoots up immensely. Hamas will then will try to leverage the rest of the US citizens to force the United States to pressure Israel even more. This is right up hamas's alley this is what he do. They need to take the W and move on and not play domestic politics with it.

This deal will not change the overall conflict. Israel is going to do this. They will not be dissuaded. However what would change the overall conflict is what the US does, it would at least change the timelines significantly. So to give Hamas more leverage over us, to change the overall conflict, would be a huge mistake.


We'll see.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:12 am to
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BNO News @BNONews BREAKING: Israeli government approves 4-day ceasefire and the release of 150 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for 50 hostages


I'm sure every purple haired shitbag will be excited



You mean you're not?

I don't have purple hair and I think it’s a pretty good deal.

Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2231 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:45 am to
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You mean you're not? I don't have purple hair and I think it’s a pretty good deal.


They're giving an army that is on the ropes 5 days to regroup and allow their leadership to escape.

The only reason the IDF is doing this is pressure from Biden because his house members keep calling for a ceasefire.


We'll see if hamas can even provide the 50 hostages

There's a good chance they just delay the 4 days and don't give up many because they can't find them/ most are dead/they've trafficked some to other Arab countries
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 11:49 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:51 am to
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They're giving an army that is on the ropes 5 days to regroup and allow their leadership to escape.

The only reason the IDF is doing this is pressure from Biden because his house members keep calling for a ceasefire.


We'll see if hamas can even provide the 50 hostages

There's a good chance they just delay the 4 days and don't give up many because they can't find them/ most are dead/they've trafficked some to other Arab countries


See. I told you so. I said there would be folks in this thread unhappy about this deal.

Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2231 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:55 am to
Because it's a deal made because of outside political pressure and not for any strategic reason.

If Hamas actually wanted to deal in good faith they'd release every hostage

It's pretty obvious that this is a bad idea by any strategic military reason and that the only reason it's getting done is that our president can't manage the correct political message and some of the members of his party
This post was edited on 11/22/23 at 12:00 pm
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61174 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 11:55 am to
Why was a 1 for 1 deal not made? And how much money did the US agree to give each side if anything was agreed on for the pause in festivities?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Because it's a deal made because of outside political pressure and not for any strategic reason.

If Hamas actually wanted to deal in good faith they'd release every hostage

It's pretty obvious that this is a bad idea by any strategic military reason and that the only reason it's getting done is that our president can't manage the correct political message and some of the members of his party


On page 337, I said this board wouldn't like this deal because it would be seen as capitulation. The downvotes flowed like the Salmon of Capistrano.

Thanks for owning this. No shite, really. Let's see who else admits it.

Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:15 pm to
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Why was a 1 for 1 deal not made? And how much money did the US agree to give each side if anything was agreed on for the pause in festivities?


Because a civilized people values life more than the barbaric savage. The barbaric savage knows this.

That could have something to do with it. Maybe not though.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109220 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:15 pm to
Get help.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:17 pm to
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Get help.



So I suppose you don't like this deal either.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109220 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:24 pm to
It has nothing to do with the deal, but the way you carry yourself and interact with others on here. Your own therapist can explain it further.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75103 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Pandy Fackler

Are you going to actually contribute anything here, or are you just going to keep this....whatever it is....going?
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 12:49 pm to
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It has nothing to do with the deal, but the way you carry yourself and interact with others on here. Your own therapist can explain it further.



Maybe you're my therapist and you don't know it. Maybe you're just not very good at it.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Are you going to actually contribute anything here, or are you just going to keep this....whatever it is....going?


Look, I'm just saying I like this hostage swap and it sounds like I might be the only one.

What was it, 50 civilized, conscience driven human beings for 150 smooth brained savages?

That's a bargain.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109220 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 2:34 pm to
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Maybe you're my therapist and you don't know it. Maybe you're just not very good at it.


I only evaluate, diagnose, and recommend treatments, I don't do therapy.
Posted by WHATASHAME
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
717 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 3:50 pm to
Isn’t there a health and fitness board?
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
78366 posts
Posted on 11/22/23 at 4:57 pm to
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Look, I'm just saying I like this hostage swap and it sounds like I might be the only one.


Did you like the last one where shite went totally sideways and was deemed a huge failure?
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