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re: Israel–Hamas War Discussion Thread: News Links On First Page

Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:01 am to
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:01 am to
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Posted by UFownstSECsince1950
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:28 am to
Is the IDF releasing any GoPro/ground footage of the invasion?
Posted by ZULU
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:29 am to
Once Israel wipes out hamas who will take their place
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 6:30 am to
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Once Israel wipes out hamas who will take their place


Hopefully a parking lot.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:04 am to
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Is the IDF releasing any GoPro/ground footage of the invasion?


Generally speaking civilized nations don’t do the Go-Pro thing since it documents the necessities of war. Now Ragheads terrorist love this because it documents in detail the atrocities they commit and they use as recruiting tools with low IQ chattel lining up to be suicide bombers or human shields.
Posted by I20goon
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:05 am to
Hibollah will definitely try to fill the resistance role. Make no mistake, no one is more happier with the current war in Gaza than hisbollah, save Iran.

However this assumes Gaza will go back to being an un-occupied, self-governing territory like it has been since 2006.

It will not.
Posted by LSURoss
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:22 am to
sticky gone
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:28 am to
Thanks for this, typical fake Christian moral hypocrisy...

When my side does it...
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it documents the necessities of war


When my enemy does it...
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documents in detail the atrocities they commit


Useful idiots should never change, they are a real asset to authoritarians.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:35 am to
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Once Israel wipes out hamas who will take their place


Iran will find another group of willing participants to fund and build up. It will be Hamas but with a different name but same goals. Just look around the ME, there is an Iran backed group in almost every country.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 7:38 am to
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Thanks for this, typical fake Christian moral hypocrisy...

When my side does it...
quote:
it documents the necessities of war


When my enemy does it...
quote:
documents in detail the atrocities they commit


Useful idiots should never change, they are a real asset to authoritarians.



Are you equating civilian deaths that are collateral damage to intentionally targeting civilians and beheading them in an effort to create terror?

Because it really sounds as if you're trying to compare the two.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 7:40 am
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:00 am to
So the only real solution to this problem, is taking out Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Ayatollah and his posse in Iran? Basically a full blown Middle Eastern War.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:51 am to
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So the only real solution to this problem, is taking out Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Ayatollah and his posse in Iran? Basically a full blown Middle Eastern War.




It's a culmination of what should have been done for decades. Treaties and ceasefires do not work with those who fundamentally hate you as a people and as a society.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 8:58 am to
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So the only real solution to this problem, is taking out Hamas in Gaza, Hezbollah in Lebanon, and the Ayatollah and his posse in Iran? Basically a full blown Middle Eastern War.


How else do you deal with them?
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:11 am to
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It's a culmination of what should have been done for decades. Treaties and ceasefires do not work with those who fundamentally hate you as a people and as a society.


Spot on. Hindsight is 20/20, but the West seemed to have held Israel back from doing what needed to be done a long time ago. Now we’re really in a predicament in the civilized world.
Posted by sta4ever
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:29 am to
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How else do you deal with them?


I guess the question is, are we going to allow Israel to do what needs to be done, and risk escalating this thing into a not only regional war, but a world wide conflict?

Russians and Chinese won’t allow us to have a war with Iran, without some sort of response from them. I know the Russians can’t really focus on anything other than Ukraine right now, but if this is a war against the West, then they’ll definitely respond in some sort of way. But it really seems like if Iran gets involved, we’ll become involved. Really, if Iran gets involved, everyone gets involved. And I just don’t see how you can destroy Hamas, Hezbollah, and whoever else, without taking out the state sponsor for these groups. Scary times.
Posted by Eighteen
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:33 am to
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Iran will find another group of willing participants to fund and build up. It will be Hamas but with a different name but same goals. Just look around the ME, there is an Iran backed group in almost every country.


Israel won’t allow many, if any, to live there once this is over. And those that do are going to actually be in open air prisons.

This latest Hamas attack definitely sealed the fate of any “coexistence” in our lifetime. Israel will have a “new normal” of IDF presence and surveillance at their border with very draconian measures. Similar to how the US still has a “new normal” of air travel with the TSA 20 years removed from 9/11
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:34 am
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:36 am to
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However this assumes Gaza will go back to being an un-occupied, self-governing territory like it has been since 2006.

It will not.



Correct. Once Israel enters, they're not leaving. If Palestinians thought Gaza was an open-air prison before, they'll beg for those days soon as they won't be able to piss without an Israeli watching them.
This post was edited on 11/1/23 at 9:39 am
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 9:55 am to
Can't wait for the shock and horror of the "refugee camp bombing" to increase even when it becomes known that it was like 5 civilians who died because of an underground ammo dump

Pretty insane that people are still taking Hamas's word on death tolls etc
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:02 am to
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Pretty insane that people are still taking Hamas's word on death tolls etc
I get what you’re saying but to act like the IDF doesn’t have any reason to lie about civilian death tolls is pretty disingenuous. It’s part of their strategy as well.

Lots of independent reporting from people in Gaza confirming what we is expected with this campaign, lots of civilian deaths.
Posted by Enzos Tiny Pito
Member since Oct 2019
2231 posts
Posted on 11/1/23 at 10:15 am to
Possibly because they haven't completely made up death tolls for this entire time like Hamas has?

I don't see the IDF having moving body bags on the ground for photo opps
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