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Is "y'all" the greatest pronoun ever created?

Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:00 pm
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:00 pm
Relative frequency of y'all by state:



From Wikipedia:

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The usage of y'all can satisfy several grammatical functions, including an associative plural, a collective pronoun, an institutional pronoun, and an indefinite pronoun.

Y'all can in some instances serve as a "tone-setting device to express familiarity and solidarity." When used in the singular, y'all can be used to convey a feeling of warmth towards the addressee. In this way, singular usage of y'all differs from French, Russian or German, where plural forms can be used for formal singular instances.


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All y'all, all of y'all, and alls y'all are used by some speakers to indicate a larger group than is necessarily implied by simply y'all. All y'all can also be used for emphasis; the existence of this etymologically pleonastic form is further evidence that speakers now perceive y'all as a grammatically indivisible unit.


Also.

Why Y’all Should Be Our Salvation From the Sexist, Bro-y Tyranny of You Guys

quote:

But Pinsker has another option for us to consider: What about y’all? Warm, friendly, and lyrical, y’all is objectively superior not only to all the aforementioned pronouns but to its original component words, you and all. It rolls off the tongue in ways that no other alternative does, it’s economical, and unlike friends, people, or team, it doesn’t immediately signal to listeners that you’ve planned the way you are going this address the group. Y’all also takes on additional grammatical labor like a champ, giving rise to beautifully efficient contraction like y’all’d’ve (you all would have) or y’all’ll (you all will). While there’s some debate on where the apostrophe goes (it’s between the y and the all, duh), y’all provides an uncontroversial and elegant solution to one of English’s worst shortcomings.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105234 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:01 pm to
Zie, Zim, Zir, you cissexist.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:03 pm to
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Zie, Zim, Zir


"Y'all" has the added benefit of me not having to consult some sort of resource to figure out how to properly pronounce it.
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:04 pm to
Baw.
Posted by YNWA
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:06 pm to
Yinz
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
8657 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

But Pinsker has another option for us to consider: What about y’all? Warm, friendly, and lyrical, y’all is objectively superior not only to all the aforementioned pronouns but to its original component words, you and all. It rolls off the tongue in ways that no other alternative does, it’s economical, and unlike friends, people, or team, it doesn’t immediately signal to listeners that you’ve planned the way you are going this address the group. Y’all also takes on additional grammatical labor like a champ, giving rise to beautifully efficient contraction like y’all’d’ve (you all would have) or y’all’ll (you all will). While there’s some debate on where the apostrophe goes (it’s between the y and the all, duh), y’all provides an uncontroversial and elegant solution to one of English’s worst shortcomings.


Looks like I’ve been woke since I could talk.
Posted by rsbd
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:09 pm to
Do you even baw, baw??
Posted by Kafka
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Posted by Kafka
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This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:12 pm
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:22 pm to
Number 1 in something finally .

That and obesity !
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177206 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:25 pm to
frick the CDC for appropriating our culture and using “y’all” in a tweet trying to get southerners to not take Ivermectin.

Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
12878 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:25 pm to
It really is much better than "you guys" for you all. And "yalls" is way better than the "you guyses" that comes out of people's mouths when they try to make it possessive
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9137 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:25 pm to
Settle something for me...




When indicating a noun that is a possession of y’all, is the correct spelling y’alls or y’all’s?

The ‘s is more consistent with how we indicate possession in the rest of the English language, but something about 2 apostrophes just feels dirty. Y’alls just looks like it would be the correct spelling IMO, but my a-hole iphone continually autocorrects it to the double apostrophe.

Is it “What’s y’alls plan?” Or “What’s y’all’s plan?” I say the former. Am I right, or is Apple?
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Settle something for me...




When indicating a noun that is a possession of y’all, is the correct spelling y’alls or y’all’s?

The ‘s is more consistent with how we indicate possession in the rest of the English language, but something about 2 apostrophes just feels dirty. Y’alls just looks like it would be the correct spelling IMO, but my a-hole iphone continually autocorrects it to the double apostrophe.

Is it “What’s y’alls plan?” Or “What’s y’all’s plan?” I say the former. Am I right, or is Apple?


It's not uncommon for a possessive pronoun to drop the use of "'s" (apostrophe s) and just use "s".

For example, the possessive form of "it" is "its".

So, I would think the possessive form of "y'all" would be "y'alls".
This post was edited on 8/22/21 at 10:30 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53506 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:28 pm to
We were gender neutral before it was popular. Way better than "you guys". Sexist arse Yankees.
Posted by UndercoverBryologist
Member since Nov 2020
8077 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:31 pm to
frick the CDC for appropriating our culture and using “y’all” in a tweet trying to get southerners to not take Ivermectin.


Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
70939 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:32 pm to
Y'all is absolutely the best pronoun (and the best contraction fwiw) ever created. I spent years of my professional career ashamed of it and intentionally avoided it in business settings. Then I realized it's efficiency, simplicity, and feel good colloquial tone and have been using it a lot lately. It's actually surprisingly disarming in a business setting, which is usually beneficial. I think the negative connotation has dwindled significantly as southerners have resettled all over the country and planted the seed.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9137 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:32 pm to


Someone please tell Tim Cook lol

Apple’s autocorrect algorithm generally seems to be decent at picking up patterns and adjusting over time. But for some reason on this one, no matter how many times I go back and delete the added ‘, they just keep adding it.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
78304 posts
Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:33 pm to
quote:

I think the negative connotation has dwindled significantly as southerners have resettled all over the country and planted the seed.



Interesting take, but I think you’re wrong.
Posted by HeadSlash
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Posted on 8/22/21 at 10:35 pm to
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