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re: Is white privilege a real thing?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:24 am to slackster
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:24 am to slackster
quote:I know that to at least some extent, it exists. But can you give me some examples?
the BLM movement, there are some kernels of truth with "white privilege" but it makes it difficult to take someone seriously when they cover it in layer after layer of hyperbole and outright lies.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:25 am to trom83
Nope, it's an excuse for not getting out there and busting your arse. No one is going to give you success, you have to earn it. White privilege is what lazy people use to justify not doing shite with their lives.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:26 am to ReauxlTide222
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This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 6:09 am
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:27 am to trom83
Sort of a thing.
Imagine a party attire was suit + tie and you only owned slacks/oxford
You are under dressed and everyone can see that. A lot of people don't care, some judge you and some wished they could be that casual. The fact some people do judge is the issue
You are still invited to the party, you can do everything there but you feel outside/not as welcome by other attendees. It is over something you have no control over too
To a white person, they have the option of fitting in with their "suit" or not. African Americans feel like they don't even have the option of fully meeting that "dress code"
White privilege is not having to worry about if the person you are dealing with cares or if they are judging you. A ton of people don't give a shite but a lot do
Just look on this board whenever someone shite talks a female for having dated "BBC" and not following that. Why the frick does the race of an ex boyfriend matter?
ETA: I'm no white privilege warrior. I think the issue is way more minor than people make it out and rhetoric leads to hate
Imagine a party attire was suit + tie and you only owned slacks/oxford
You are under dressed and everyone can see that. A lot of people don't care, some judge you and some wished they could be that casual. The fact some people do judge is the issue
You are still invited to the party, you can do everything there but you feel outside/not as welcome by other attendees. It is over something you have no control over too
To a white person, they have the option of fitting in with their "suit" or not. African Americans feel like they don't even have the option of fully meeting that "dress code"
White privilege is not having to worry about if the person you are dealing with cares or if they are judging you. A ton of people don't give a shite but a lot do
Just look on this board whenever someone shite talks a female for having dated "BBC" and not following that. Why the frick does the race of an ex boyfriend matter?
ETA: I'm no white privilege warrior. I think the issue is way more minor than people make it out and rhetoric leads to hate
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 9:29 am
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:28 am to slackster
quote:Does this happen that often? I think social class is judged more than race.
So aren't you happy you don't belong to that group? Wouldn't it be frustrating to be a good person hindered by the actions of what still amounts to be a minority of your own race? Wouldn't it suck if ignorant people across the country considered you guilty by association?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:31 am to jivy26
quote:
No it just gives those who rather leech off of the system someone to point a finger at instead of themselves. American privilege is a real thing and if you work your arse off you can reap the benefits of it.
Sigh.
You can agree that being born American is a great advantage but you cannot comprehend that being born a certain race, on average, puts you even at a slight disadvantage?
If it was feasible to just snap your fingers and change races, would you do it? At a bare minimum I hope you can admit stereotypes - even justified stereotypes - can be an issue for someone trying to better themselves.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:32 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I think social class is judged more than race.
Rich upperclass African American is my neighbor. I see a Facebook post of the following because police friends were being cold to him
"Just because I'm black doesn't mean I hate the police. #BlackLivesMatter & #BlueLivesMatter because #AllLivesMatter"
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:33 am to trom83
Yes it is, not anything to necessarily feel guilty about. Just another thing in life.
If you are a white man, you are a lot less likely to be seen as a threat to others, rather then if yourr black. Most people wont walk down the street and assume youre a thug, not the case for black men.
Being born white, in general, youre a lot less likely to be born in poverty unlike so many black people. Being born white, you are a lot more likely to be born with a father in your home. Generallt, white schools are better than black schools, thus you have much better access to education.
If you are a white man, you are a lot less likely to be seen as a threat to others, rather then if yourr black. Most people wont walk down the street and assume youre a thug, not the case for black men.
Being born white, in general, youre a lot less likely to be born in poverty unlike so many black people. Being born white, you are a lot more likely to be born with a father in your home. Generallt, white schools are better than black schools, thus you have much better access to education.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:35 am to WG_Dawg
Lol, so there are no systemic injustices that blacks face in this country? Gtfoh! The stats don't lie. This country was built off the backs of slaves and immigrants, and not a single fricking concession or reparation payment has been made. Statistically black offenders get harsher sentences than white offenders for the same crime. I hate when people bring up the civil rights movement as though all wrongs have been righted. The reality is the civil rights movement was blacks fighting for rights that they already inherently have. You act like white people gave up something or made a sacrifice. I don't need a white person to acknowledge me as being their equal or give me basic human rights. These are things every person is born with. Over 200 years of free fricking labor and you try to make it seem like blacks are being unreasonable lol?! Are you fricking kidding me. Tell that to all the native Americans that had ancestors that got massacred, tell that to all the immigrants that got fricked over, tell that to the blacks who had ancestors who endured slavery and discrimination. Slaves who were taken from their home to a foreign land, stripped of their identity and humanity, raped, murdered, and exploited, for your ancestors gain. frick your white narrative. How about you start giving back what was taken. Black Wall street in Tulsa. Over 600 black owned business es burned to the ground and destroyed at the hands of whites. You're not the fricking victim, and you're delusional if you think all is fair. It was my ancestors blood, sweat, and tears that contributed to building this country, and they never saw a fricking dime for that labor. Go frick yourself!
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:35 am to slackster
quote:
At a bare minimum I hope you can admit stereotypes - even justified stereotypes - can be an issue for someone trying to better themselves.
You could be an ivy league educated, multi millionaire industrialist and large Republican Party donor but if you are black most "upper class" white women in the South would not date& bring you home to meet their parents.
That is fricked up
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:36 am to GenesChin
quote:His friends are cold towards him?
Rich upperclass African American is my neighbor. I see a Facebook post of the following because police friends were being cold to him
Anyone that uses those and that many hashtags is most likely a weird/passive aggressive/angry fricktard who has no feel for anything.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:38 am to Maverick01
quote:
The stats don't lie
which stats? The ones that say blacks are killed by other blacks at an exponentially higher rate than whites? I agree.
quote:
This country was built off the backs of slaves and immigrants, and not a single fricking concession or reparation payment has been made.
nevermind..I was going to address each of your ridiculous points but I only got to this first one and realized you can't be serious. Carry on.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:39 am to trom83
It's a bullshite term made up by the media. Lets just assume it exists for a sec. I always ask people what exactly should I do? What will it fix? Yes, I'm incredibly privileged because I'm white, now what? They usually stare at me with a shocked look and say, just admit it to it, that's all
it's so fricken stupid.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:41 am to Maverick01
Thanks for sharing your view.
That Tulsa riot was after WWI. The whites got war planes and bombed the Black Wall Street killing hundreds
That Tulsa riot was after WWI. The whites got war planes and bombed the Black Wall Street killing hundreds
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:42 am to QJenk
quote:
If you are a white man, you are a lot less likely to be seen as a threat to others, rather then if yourr black. Most people wont walk down the street and assume youre a thug, not the case for black men.
Being born white, in general, youre a lot less likely to be born in poverty unlike so many black people. Being born white, you are a lot more likely to be born with a father in your home. Generallt, white schools are better than black schools, thus you have much better access to education.
So, generalizing is ok when it works to your favor.
There is no white privilege. There is socioeconomic privilege.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:42 am to WG_Dawg
quote:A fair number of people who post here grew up in the 1960s and 1970s. If you acknowledge that things were different for people born in those decades--that white kids had it easier--then you are acknowledging that white privilege exists, at least for them.
no, just something liberals came up with.
This is 2016, not 1960. A black baby and a white baby are both equally able to read books, study, go to class, work hard, get into college, get a degree, get a job, raise a family, follow laws, and be productive members of society in general. There is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from achieving their dreams.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:43 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
I think social class is judged more than race.
Even if that is the case, it doesn't preclude race from being associate with certain stereotypes.
I think it is overblown, and I do think there are people who want to use it as a crutch, but to act like it is non-existent is just fricking ignorant.
A little anecdotal evidence - my best friend is a black guy. He thinks the Alton Sterling thing is justified, the MN thing is probably going to be a real problem, and the Dallas situation is despicable. We were talking yesterday about the last two times I was pulled over for allegedly speeding and that I was able to get off with a warning because I fervently argued my case to the officer as we stood there on the side of the road. I was pacing back and forth and talking animatedly as I plead my case, an action that would be unwise for my friend. I assumed I'd get the benefit of the doubt and the cop would hear me out, something that I reasonably think would have gone down differently for my buddy.
I'm happy that I was born into the majority of America. No reasonable person would argue otherwise.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 9:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
There is no white privilege. There is socioeconomic privilege.
I'm not sure how you can really separate the two, and when you isolate for socioeconomic status blacks are still statistically inferior in many areas. I'm not even suggesting it is the fault of someone else, I'm just saying that a black man or woman trying to better themselves will have to overcome stereotypes to make it. You may think that is insignificant, but it doesn't mean it is nonexistent. (I've already said it is tremendously overblown.)
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