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Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:36 pm to Maverick01
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This question alone completely validates my way of thinking in regards to racism in this country. You're now trying to justify slavery
in no way am i justifying slavery
i'm addressing your point about the effects of slavery today
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basically implying, given the current state of affairs in Africa, blacks are better off having been made to endure several hundred years of slavery and discrimination.
nope. did not say that either
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It is truly an effort in futility to discuss this topic with you any further.
because you created not one, but 2 straw man arguments?
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Your disconnect lies in not being black, and not having the same history.
i'm not Asian either but the reason why japanese, chinese, and indian immigrants are succeeding in America today (ahead of white people, mind you) is not because they are maintaining the culture of those countries from the early 1800s
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The fact that you feel you have the authority and experience to make the statement white privilege doesn't exist
another straw man
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You're telling black people who are experiencing these things first hand that they are wrong
well just because you're black doesn't mean you're omniscient, objective, or rational
lots of emotional-irrational black people out there who are promoting false narratives
same with white poeple
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:47 pm to SabiDojo
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I'm white, but not fair. I tan well, though. So, I don't know. White with caramel filling? Which dessert is that?
A Werther's Original?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:47 pm to Maverick01
Mav, you act as if Africans were the only race ever to be enslaved. That there is no return to normal life after an atrocity like this. All races have been on the shitty end and Africans have just been the most recent. Why does African history start on the slave ships? More than likely you were slaves on your native continent. Your ancestors got the wrong end of the deal but today you have a great opportunity in front of you because of their plight. Trace Your roots back to Africa where your ancestors are originally from and see how they are doing today. If it's better you can always return, if not you live in the best country in the world no matter black, white, yellow, red.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:49 pm to 50_Tiger
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Glad you are avoiding my retort.
I'm not going to waste my time getting into a back and forth with a white man over his perceived idea of present day equality. We see things through a different lens. Basically you stay in your lane, and I will stay in mine. The mistake my parents and their parents made was giving a shite about drinking out the same water fountain or eating at the same establishment as a white man. We should have taken what was rightfully ours instead of settling for consolation crumbs. We should have separated rather than integrated. MLK naïvely fought for acceptance from whites, and I could give a frick less about a white man's opinion of me. I never have, and I never will.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:50 pm to Maverick01
You make zero sense at this point.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:51 pm to trom83
The only thing worse than 'white privilege' is 'white guilt'
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:52 pm to Maverick01
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I'm not going to waste my time getting into a back and forth with a white man over his perceived idea of present day equality. We see things through a different lens. Basically you stay in your lane, and I will stay in mine.
this is the definition of creating a bubble and living in it
how will we ever solve the issues if people do this?
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We should have taken what was rightfully ours
which is what, exactly?
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We should have separated rather than integrated. MLK naïvely fought for acceptance from whites, and I could give a frick less about a white man's opinion of me. I never have, and I never will.
so you're a Malcolm X guy, eh? i'm a big fan
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:53 pm to 14caratgoldjones
There are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in Africa who are enslaved by Africans
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:54 pm to Hammertime
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There are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in Africa who are enslaved by Africans
i hope you all realize that by making points like these, you just play into their hands
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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how will we ever solve the issues if people do this?
Not my issue to solve. Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy, we just suffer from it.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:57 pm to Maverick01
Maverick I think I speak for everyone when I say to go frick yourself... Don't like America or white people? GTFO
And frick it, I mean it too... All I've ever heard my whole life was how hard black people have it wah wah wah... Meanwhile y'all spend all your fricking free time killing EACH OTHER but as soon as a white officer feels the need to protect himself or subdue a dangerous suspect, we have to hear about inequality... I'm fricking tired of it
And frick it, I mean it too... All I've ever heard my whole life was how hard black people have it wah wah wah... Meanwhile y'all spend all your fricking free time killing EACH OTHER but as soon as a white officer feels the need to protect himself or subdue a dangerous suspect, we have to hear about inequality... I'm fricking tired of it
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:57 pm to shel311
Well, if all things are equal, education and experience-wise, a black male has a hell of a lot better chance getting a job in my field than a white male since most of the jobs are in government, and the government tends to favor minorities in employment. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion, if all things are equal...well, unless you take into account that it's probably a race-based decision either way at that point, which is wrong.
Saying someone has "White Privilege" is passing the blame. It's saying that an entire group of people are holding you back, whether they want to or not. No one is going to tell me that I'm holding someone back just because of my skin color. If the time ever comes where the better man gets passed over for me because I'm a white man, I'll make that right (assuming I know a more qualified person was passed over).
Until that time, I refuse to believe that my white skin has benefited me more, especially when their are scholarships for minorities only, bias in hiring towards minorities, and specific programs geared towards minorities in my field. Sounds like the benefit is to be a minority in this day and age, whether that be black, hispanic, or female.
Saying someone has "White Privilege" is passing the blame. It's saying that an entire group of people are holding you back, whether they want to or not. No one is going to tell me that I'm holding someone back just because of my skin color. If the time ever comes where the better man gets passed over for me because I'm a white man, I'll make that right (assuming I know a more qualified person was passed over).
Until that time, I refuse to believe that my white skin has benefited me more, especially when their are scholarships for minorities only, bias in hiring towards minorities, and specific programs geared towards minorities in my field. Sounds like the benefit is to be a minority in this day and age, whether that be black, hispanic, or female.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:00 pm to Maverick01
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Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy, we just suffer from it.
Whites didn't create the problem of black stupidity, we just suffer from it.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:00 pm to Maverick01
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Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy,
when you say "white supremacy", what do you mean exactly?
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:03 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Whites didn't create the problem of black stupidity, we just suffer from it.
and you fricking idiots just can't stop playing right into their hands
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
He don't fricking know sharpton hasn't told him what to say yet
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:04 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Don't like America or white people? GTFO
Sure I'll get out when you compensate my ancestors for crimes carried out against them of kidnapping, rape, forced servitude, and murder. While you're at why don't you give the native americans their land back as well that your ancestors pilfered.
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm not a fricking idiot SFP I'm just sick and tired of being the blame for every fricking that's wrong with black society
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:05 pm to Maverick01
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Sure I'll get out when you compensate my ancestors for crimes carried out against them of kidnapping, rape, forced servitude, and murder. While you're at why don't you give the native americans their land back as well that your ancestors pilfered.
Here we go with this shite again... frick off
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