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re: Is white privilege a real thing?

Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:35 pm to
If it means a sense of self, a call and a response to duty, love...sure. i will call it responsibility, some may say privelege. I care not about semantics.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:36 pm to
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This question alone completely validates my way of thinking in regards to racism in this country. You're now trying to justify slavery

in no way am i justifying slavery

i'm addressing your point about the effects of slavery today

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basically implying, given the current state of affairs in Africa, blacks are better off having been made to endure several hundred years of slavery and discrimination.

nope. did not say that either

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It is truly an effort in futility to discuss this topic with you any further.

because you created not one, but 2 straw man arguments?

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Your disconnect lies in not being black, and not having the same history.

i'm not Asian either but the reason why japanese, chinese, and indian immigrants are succeeding in America today (ahead of white people, mind you) is not because they are maintaining the culture of those countries from the early 1800s

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The fact that you feel you have the authority and experience to make the statement white privilege doesn't exist

another straw man

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You're telling black people who are experiencing these things first hand that they are wrong

well just because you're black doesn't mean you're omniscient, objective, or rational

lots of emotional-irrational black people out there who are promoting false narratives

same with white poeple

Posted by Canard Noir
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
1397 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:47 pm to
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I'm white, but not fair. I tan well, though. So, I don't know. White with caramel filling? Which dessert is that?



A Werther's Original?
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1576 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:47 pm to
Mav, you act as if Africans were the only race ever to be enslaved. That there is no return to normal life after an atrocity like this. All races have been on the shitty end and Africans have just been the most recent. Why does African history start on the slave ships? More than likely you were slaves on your native continent. Your ancestors got the wrong end of the deal but today you have a great opportunity in front of you because of their plight. Trace Your roots back to Africa where your ancestors are originally from and see how they are doing today. If it's better you can always return, if not you live in the best country in the world no matter black, white, yellow, red.
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:49 pm to
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Glad you are avoiding my retort.


I'm not going to waste my time getting into a back and forth with a white man over his perceived idea of present day equality. We see things through a different lens. Basically you stay in your lane, and I will stay in mine. The mistake my parents and their parents made was giving a shite about drinking out the same water fountain or eating at the same establishment as a white man. We should have taken what was rightfully ours instead of settling for consolation crumbs. We should have separated rather than integrated. MLK naïvely fought for acceptance from whites, and I could give a frick less about a white man's opinion of me. I never have, and I never will.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
42798 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:50 pm to
You make zero sense at this point.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:51 pm to
The only thing worse than 'white privilege' is 'white guilt'
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:52 pm to
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I'm not going to waste my time getting into a back and forth with a white man over his perceived idea of present day equality. We see things through a different lens. Basically you stay in your lane, and I will stay in mine.

this is the definition of creating a bubble and living in it

how will we ever solve the issues if people do this?

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We should have taken what was rightfully ours

which is what, exactly?

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We should have separated rather than integrated. MLK naïvely fought for acceptance from whites, and I could give a frick less about a white man's opinion of me. I never have, and I never will.

so you're a Malcolm X guy, eh? i'm a big fan
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:53 pm to
There are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in Africa who are enslaved by Africans
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:54 pm to
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There are still hundreds of thousands of slaves in Africa who are enslaved by Africans

i hope you all realize that by making points like these, you just play into their hands
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:55 pm to
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how will we ever solve the issues if people do this? 


Not my issue to solve. Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy, we just suffer from it.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:57 pm to
Maverick I think I speak for everyone when I say to go frick yourself... Don't like America or white people? GTFO



And frick it, I mean it too... All I've ever heard my whole life was how hard black people have it wah wah wah... Meanwhile y'all spend all your fricking free time killing EACH OTHER but as soon as a white officer feels the need to protect himself or subdue a dangerous suspect, we have to hear about inequality... I'm fricking tired of it
This post was edited on 7/9/16 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 12:57 pm to
Well, if all things are equal, education and experience-wise, a black male has a hell of a lot better chance getting a job in my field than a white male since most of the jobs are in government, and the government tends to favor minorities in employment. Nothing wrong with that, in my opinion, if all things are equal...well, unless you take into account that it's probably a race-based decision either way at that point, which is wrong.

Saying someone has "White Privilege" is passing the blame. It's saying that an entire group of people are holding you back, whether they want to or not. No one is going to tell me that I'm holding someone back just because of my skin color. If the time ever comes where the better man gets passed over for me because I'm a white man, I'll make that right (assuming I know a more qualified person was passed over).

Until that time, I refuse to believe that my white skin has benefited me more, especially when their are scholarships for minorities only, bias in hiring towards minorities, and specific programs geared towards minorities in my field. Sounds like the benefit is to be a minority in this day and age, whether that be black, hispanic, or female.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy, we just suffer from it.


Whites didn't create the problem of black stupidity, we just suffer from it.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:00 pm to
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Blacks didn't create the problem of white supremacy,

when you say "white supremacy", what do you mean exactly?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465012 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:03 pm to
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Whites didn't create the problem of black stupidity, we just suffer from it.

and you fricking idiots just can't stop playing right into their hands
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:03 pm to
He don't fricking know sharpton hasn't told him what to say yet
Posted by Maverick01
Member since Sep 2015
581 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:04 pm to
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Don't like America or white people? GTFO


Sure I'll get out when you compensate my ancestors for crimes carried out against them of kidnapping, rape, forced servitude, and murder. While you're at why don't you give the native americans their land back as well that your ancestors pilfered.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:04 pm to
I'm not a fricking idiot SFP I'm just sick and tired of being the blame for every fricking that's wrong with black society
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34859 posts
Posted on 7/9/16 at 1:05 pm to
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Sure I'll get out when you compensate my ancestors for crimes carried out against them of kidnapping, rape, forced servitude, and murder. While you're at why don't you give the native americans their land back as well that your ancestors pilfered.




Here we go with this shite again... frick off
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