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re: Is there an update on missing 40 year old man?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:07 am to GeauxPack81
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:07 am to GeauxPack81
No idea. Saw it shared on fb and wanted put it here.
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Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:09 am to fr33manator
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It's a fools errand but...someone's at least gotta try, right?
Yes sir. It's not fruitless work however.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:14 am to Lester Earl
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People thought the Jewish tourist that went missing in New Orleans last year was murdered. It was being reported his credit cards were being used and such. In the end he jumped off the bridge and committed suicide. They didn’t find his body for 2 months.
All that to say; there might actually be no perps
You’re trying to suggest that there’s no perps involved in the man’s disappearance? So how do you explain the debit card usage at the Greyhound bus station? The black guy caught on surveillance withdrawing cash from the ATM magically guessed the man’s PIN number after randomly finding his debit card?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:15 am to John88
His luggage was in the room, but the bed was still tidy
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:16 am to PaddleFaster
I reached out to Matt Still letting him know a great group of people with compassion for others are wanting to help and offered him to join the thread.
I did let him know to take the speculation with a grain of salt
I did let him know to take the speculation with a grain of salt
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:21 am to PaddleFaster
Is this the client he was meeting with in the picture or some random guy at the hotel ? If it was the client, why was he going up to Nathan's room ?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:27 am to Breauxsif
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You’re trying to suggest that there’s no perps involved in the man’s disappearance? So how do you explain the debit card usage at the Greyhound bus station? The black guy caught on surveillance withdrawing cash from the ATM magically guessed the man’s PIN number after randomly finding his debit card?
maybe he figured he'd give his wallet away to some random homeless person, the go walk to the bridge and jump.
That's as believable as him randomly being murdered, and i say random b/c i think if he was murdered it wasn't random.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 11:53 am to TeddyPadillac
Way out there but,
Have they checked all the hotel rooms? I assume yes by now. Lots of them have side doors (don’t know layout) and if someone else opened door he may not have swiped. But hotel must have cameras too so this is a non starter.
Just trying to think of every option. If they don’t have cameras at other doors peeps can go in/out without being seen. Then would want to explore if other side/back doors and was forced out that way maybe some cameras close to those doors need looked at.
Other than running away and gifting his atm card to throw police off, this does not bode well for him.
Have police or anyone talked to pub workers from that night to see if they noticed or heard anything? Most say he was walking back to hotel but a lot of people who been drinking get hungry. Maybe he went a different way to get food?
Have they checked all the hotel rooms? I assume yes by now. Lots of them have side doors (don’t know layout) and if someone else opened door he may not have swiped. But hotel must have cameras too so this is a non starter.
Just trying to think of every option. If they don’t have cameras at other doors peeps can go in/out without being seen. Then would want to explore if other side/back doors and was forced out that way maybe some cameras close to those doors need looked at.
Other than running away and gifting his atm card to throw police off, this does not bode well for him.
Have police or anyone talked to pub workers from that night to see if they noticed or heard anything? Most say he was walking back to hotel but a lot of people who been drinking get hungry. Maybe he went a different way to get food?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 11:56 am
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:34 pm to OU Guy
Kiran updated this earlier. Interesting
Kiran updated article
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Sources tell UWK a man was seen on video with Nathan nearby going to the ATM. Sources say he was detained Tuesday by Baton Rouge Police, questioned, then released.
Kiran updated article
Posted on 3/1/23 at 12:58 pm to pizota13
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I truly believe this is a case of being at the wrong place at the wrong time. I think this is a typical robbery gone wrong. I do not believe drugs or anything conspicuous reason for his disappearance.
I would totally believe this and would think it was the most likely case except where's the body most robbery's gone bad leave the body where it falls and haul arse.
I feel like he definitely went somewhere/did something after the bar maybe it was shady maybe is was something as innocent as wanting to see the river and he got snatched up, forced to give up the pin number and then meet a tragic end.
You would thing almost all of downtown BR is cover by security camera's and that we would know more, but we are depending on BRPD to get the info so who knows.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:02 pm to joemuggs
Since the Greyhound station is less than a mile away, is the general consensus that he was kidnapped then forced to give up his PIN?
I'm of the belief that he was put into a car by another perp and the 2nd perp went in to use his card. I'm sure the car has been identified by BRPD, they just aren't releasing that yet.
And yes Karen, this is speculation
I'm of the belief that he was put into a car by another perp and the 2nd perp went in to use his card. I'm sure the car has been identified by BRPD, they just aren't releasing that yet.
And yes Karen, this is speculation
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:07 pm to Breauxsif
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You’re trying to suggest that there’s no perps involved in the man’s disappearance? So how do you explain the debit card usage at the Greyhound bus station? The black guy caught on surveillance withdrawing cash from the ATM magically guessed the man’s PIN number after randomly finding his debit card
I think it could be either. Someone missing this long without much trace could very well being trying to disappear. Or jumped off a bridge. Or skipped town. In the New Orleans case, it was being reported his card was being used too.
An impulse murder, if that is what we are talking about, is hard to hide with no evidence and no planning on the perps part.
Crack head this, crack head that. If he were to be mugged, they get what they want and leave as fast as possible. Hiding a body for this long is hard. You don’t just lug an average sized man all over BR
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:08 pm to mikelbr
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Sources tell UWK a man was seen on video with Nathan nearby going to the ATM. Sources say he was detained Tuesday by Baton Rouge Police, questioned, then released.
Is this implying that the guy and Nathan were together, either out of Nathans's free will or not, or is it just a guy getting money out of the ATM, and Nathan can be seen waiting his turn?
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Amber told WSB-TV in Atlanta that surveillance footage shows “someone of a different race using her husband’s debit card.”
Is this the same footage that is referenced previously? If so, then that seems extremely suspicious. Maybe they had nothing to hold the guy on, but he's still a suspect?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:17 pm to facher08
“ I just don't buy the mugging or robbery gone wrong theory. I've walked that part of downtown 100 times over the last few years. I would never consider it unsafe. People, lights, cameras, police everywhere. It's literally the last place I'd probably try and mug someone if I were a criminal. ”
Not sure where you are talking about because in front of Happy’s is pretty dark at night, some nights very few people on the street. I’m guessing if they had all these cameras the police would have the footage. Police everywhere
Not sure where you are talking about because in front of Happy’s is pretty dark at night, some nights very few people on the street. I’m guessing if they had all these cameras the police would have the footage. Police everywhere
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:22 pm to facher08
I’m leaning more and more on him skipping town. One note, the picture from earlier today both of them show him on his phone. And he facetimed with wife from game.
I wonder if this was normal (for him)? If not then it might indicate him making last contacts even if not saying it. All speculation but we have little to go on.
If they have the phone can’t they check usage? If he used phone way above normal that might indicate him saying goodbyes without saying it. Or it might just be normal for someone with extra time on a trip catching up.
Too many key bits of info are missing. What are the times of all events like atm and hotel pics? What did he last say when left pub? What is his background which might indicate reasons to run?
If just a random crime then a body would have shown up by now imo. If planned then why? If ran then why?
I wonder if this was normal (for him)? If not then it might indicate him making last contacts even if not saying it. All speculation but we have little to go on.
If they have the phone can’t they check usage? If he used phone way above normal that might indicate him saying goodbyes without saying it. Or it might just be normal for someone with extra time on a trip catching up.
Too many key bits of info are missing. What are the times of all events like atm and hotel pics? What did he last say when left pub? What is his background which might indicate reasons to run?
If just a random crime then a body would have shown up by now imo. If planned then why? If ran then why?
This post was edited on 3/1/23 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:25 pm to facher08
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Sources tell UWK a man was seen on video with Nathan nearby going to the ATM. Sources say he was detained Tuesday by Baton Rouge Police, questioned, then released.
Is this implying that the guy and Nathan were together, either out of Nathans's free will or not, or is it just a guy getting money out of the ATM, and Nathan can be seen waiting his turn?
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Amber told WSB-TV in Atlanta that surveillance footage shows “someone of a different race using her husband’s debit card.”
Is this the same footage that is referenced previously? If so, then that seems extremely suspicious. Maybe they had nothing to hold the guy on, but he's still a suspect?
good questions, and i really wish Kiran would have put this in a time line without that information its impossible to tell how important it is. Is this something that happened earlier in the evening (therefore likely unrelated) or did it happen after he left Happy's (therefor a huge freaking deal)?? I tend to think the former b/c she didn't expand on it at all just threw it in. If it had been after happy's she should be making a big deal of it.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:25 pm to Lester Earl
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Someone missing this long without much trace could very well being trying to disappear.
How about this for a scenario: Guy wants to disappear for a while. Maybe he has a "friend" that wifey doesn't need to know about. Finds a guy near the bus station to withdraw some cash from the ATM with a deal that the withdrawer gets a cash payment, then the missing guy buys a bus ticket with cash.
Has the card been used since the bus station ATM withdrawal?
Just my hunch but he's either missing on his own effort or the search should be centered down the river a ways.
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:28 pm to Boudreaux35
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Has the card been used since the bus station ATM withdrawal?
Wife says that withdrawal was Thursday and someone used the card on Saturday before she got it cut off
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:42 pm to IT_Dawg
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Wife says that withdrawal was Thursday and someone used the card on Saturday before she got it cut off
Any info on where that WD was made?
Posted on 3/1/23 at 1:54 pm to GeauxPack81
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It's literally the last place I'd probably try and mug someone if I were a criminal. Maybe further east of downtown, basically by the interstate.
I wonder if the guy he was meeting at the job site was from Baton Rouge, if so I would assume he would have warned him about which areas of downtown he should avoid.
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