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Is there a law mandating a drawbridge opens every 30min?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:41 pm
The Madisonville bridge is complete BS, the fact that they open it every 30 minutes for the whole day whether a boat needs to come through or not is asinine.
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:44 pm to GREENHEAD22
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The Madisonville bridge is complete BS, the fact that they open it every 30 minutes for the whole day whether a boat needs to come through or not is asinine.
Agreed, I've always hated that with that bridge because there are only 3 ways across that damn river.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:47 pm to GREENHEAD22
I believe so for that bridge. It is managed by the Coast Guard.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:52 pm to GREENHEAD22
Drawbridges seem like architectural short sightedness. The long term costs of maintenance, operation, etc have to exceed the long term convenience of just building a slightly more elevated permanent structure.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:53 pm to Smeg
Without drawbridges, we never would have been blessed with the Bee Gees' classic " Jive Talkin'"
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:54 pm to GREENHEAD22
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the fact that they open it every 30 minutes for the whole day whether a boat needs to come through or not is asinine.
Thats dumb....
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:54 pm to GREENHEAD22
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the fact that they open it every 30 minutes for the whole day
Isnt it every hour?
I know they did a study a while back and changed the times it opened and it was awesome for traffic, but I think they decided on not keeping it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:56 pm to Smeg
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just building a slightly more elevated permanent structure.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 12:57 pm to GREENHEAD22
There is a law that bridges can’t block navigable waterways. As far as the openings that probably is up for debate.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:04 pm to SeaBass23
I remember as a kid my mom and her now ex were in Mobile bay coming in at night in bad weather. they were on a sailboat and the draw bridge (at the time) on Dog River would not open due to the bridge operator falling asleep - they damn near got pushed onto the rocks from the waves and wind before a motorist stopped and woke the guy up.
was very happy when they replaced it.
was very happy when they replaced it.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:08 pm to East Coast Band
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Without drawbridges, we never would have been blessed with the Bee Gees' classic " Jive Talkin'"
And the Sheriff would have caught the Dukes
Posted on 6/8/21 at 1:08 pm to SeaBass23
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There is a law that bridges can’t block navigable waterways
I don’t think you have that quite right. Bridges block navigable waterways all the time.
I think what you were looking for is something like boats have the right of way when it comes to bridges in navigable waters. Meaning automobiles wait for boats to cross, not the other way around.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:01 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:They don't open it if a boat doesn't need to come through.
The Madisonville bridge is complete BS,
But I do agree that it is beyond stupid that there is the option for it to open every 30min. Change it to hourly at the least IMO.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:05 pm to East Coast Band
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Without drawbridges, we never would have been blessed with the Bee Gees' classic " Jive Talkin'"
Beavis and Butthead
And the best beavis and butthead skit ever.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:38 pm to TigerTatorTots
I sit at it multiple times a week, it definitely opens when a boat isn't needing to pass.
They changed this so that is doesn't open from 4pm-6pm. Still opens every 30mins the rest of the time.
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Currently, on both weekdays and weekends during daytime hours from 6 a.m. through 7 p.m., the draw opens on signal every half hour, and during nighttime hours from 7 p.m. through 6 a.m., it opens on signal.
They changed this so that is doesn't open from 4pm-6pm. Still opens every 30mins the rest of the time.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:51 pm to GREENHEAD22
From 33CFR
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?117.500Tchefuncta River. The draw of the S22 Bridge, mile 2.5, at Madisonville, shall open on signal, from 7 p.m. to 6 a.m. From 6 a.m. to 7 p.m., the draw need only open on the hour and half hour, except that, from 6 a.m. to 9 a.m. and from 4 p.m. to 7 p.m. Monday through Friday except Federal holidays, the draw need only open on the hour. [USCG-2007-0079, 73 FR 12888, Mar. 11, 2008] §?117.501
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:54 pm to kciDAtaE
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I don’t think you have that quite right. Bridges block navigable waterways all the time.
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§494. Obstruction of navigation; alterations and removals; lights and signals; draws No bridge erected or maintained under the provisions of sections 491 to 498 of this title, shall at any time unreasonably obstruct the free navigation of the waters over which it is constructed,
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If the waterway is used for commerce or has been used for commerce, it is a navigable waterway and the above would apply.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:30 pm to kengel2
quote:Only at rush hour traffic times. Rest of the day its every 30 minutes but pretty sure it only opens if there’s a boat waiting to get thru
Isnt it every hour?
Posted on 6/8/21 at 3:38 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:Perhaps you just can't see the boat passing or they are doing some sort of test. Living here for ~30 years I'm pretty certain it is only if there is a boat needing to pass. Or I could just be dead wrong and have lived a lie to myself for decades.
I sit at it multiple times a week, it definitely opens when a boat isn't needing to pass.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:20 pm to Tiger Prawn
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Rest of the day its every 30 minutes but pretty sure it only opens if there’s a boat waiting to get thru
To make matters worse, I believe it's 30 minutes from when it last opened, not when it last closed. So being that the bridge typically stays open for 7-10 minutes, the bridge actually opens closer to every 20 minutes.
All for fricking leisure boats.
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