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Is There A Difference In Natural Antibody Longevity Vs Vaccines?

Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:25 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:25 pm
Do vaccinations last longer than someone’s natural developed antibodies from contracting disease?

We keep hearing about possibly contracting virus second, third time... would vaccines last any longer or are they pretty much identical?

Just trying to gauge the disinformation that has been happening.
Posted by RIPMachoMan
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:27 pm to
I am def not a medical professional but both probably last as long as the strand of the virus is consistent
Posted by GregMaddux
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:29 pm to
Both probably last as long as the strand of the virus is consistent, but i'm not a medical professional


Posted by RIPMachoMan
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Both probably last as long as the strand of the virus is consistent, but i'm not a medical professional


Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:32 pm to
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We keep hearing about possibly contracting virus second, third time...
But, as far as I know, there is no reliable evidence of this actually happening 8 months in to this.
Posted by Bullfrog
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:34 pm to
If the strand doesn’t fit.
You must acquit.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:46 pm to
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ut, as far as I know, there is no reliable evidence of this actually happening 8 months in to this.


Yet we keep hearing how it’s going to happen and unconfirmed reports of it happening but vaccines are our only hope
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

But, as far as I know, there is no reliable evidence of this actually happening 8 months in to this.



I’ve got at least some anecdotal evidence of a close family friend being in the hospital after testing positive for antibodies just two months prior. I hope it isn't so, but these subsequent infections do seem like they are possible.
This post was edited on 7/28/20 at 2:47 pm
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 8:59 pm to
Interesting. Were they symptomatic both times? Symptomatic and possitive test, asymptomatic and positive for antibodies, and then symptomatic and possitive test?
This post was edited on 7/27/20 at 9:03 pm
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:00 pm to
I did not finish med school but from what I learned, the antibodies are usually good until there is a new strand.
Posted by EngTiger
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:11 pm to
Antibodies may be present without being neutralizing as well. One study I saw estimated 20% of people with Covid antibodies did not have neutralizing antibodies.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:16 pm to
I should elaborate a bit.

He was sick with some pretty standard COVID symptoms back in April but did not test positive for the virus (They didn’t test him for the virus as far as I know). He did test positive for the antibodies like a week or two later. About two weeks ago he tested positive for the virus and had to go to the hospital.

So I’m not trying to say anything definite, but I’ve got reason to suspect it is possible for this antibody recession stuff to be legit at least.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:18 pm to
It's also possible/probable he was sick with something else originally and took one of the many flawed anti body tests.
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 7/27/20 at 9:19 pm to
It’s totally possible, the error bounds on these antibody tests are more than a little questionable.

Just wanted to chime in with the one personal experience I had.
Posted by StanSmith
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 11:33 am to
No. The vaccines will only provide immunity for a limited time and will weaken your immune system. Then the free masons in conjunction with the illuminati will develop another strain of Covid that will be worse than this one and it will affect the young. A friend of a friend's uncle's brother in law overheard this in a conversation between Bill Gates and George Soros.


Posted by dbeck
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 11:46 am to
I dropped out of sasquatch hunting school but I get a buck a strand for Bigfoot hair.

Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 11:51 am to
They have very few vaccines for any viruses as it is now.
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:36 pm to
The Vaccines being developed are DNA or RNA vaccines which have never been used in humans. The Moderna pharm vaccine being talked about in the news is RNA based. Since it is not a "dead virus" that has been grown in chicken eggs but instead genetic code, it may be possible to tailor the code to create a longer lived anti-body. And since it is not being grown in a chicken egg, that is one reason the vaccine can be developed much faster.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:40 pm to
I like the picture you just painted there
Posted by StanSmith
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Posted on 7/28/20 at 1:57 pm to
Interesting. I have never researched how vaccines are produced. I am assuming that the creation of a dead cell vaccine required "growing" the virus in the cells in the egg then killing it for use in the vaccine.
Since RNA and DNA vaccines are used now is this a matter of coming up with a close enough version of the virus to stimulate the immune response?
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