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re: Is there a bigger scam in the med field than ADD/ADHD?

Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:05 am to
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
33756 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:05 am to
Is there a more frequent topic on this board?





Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
46010 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:06 am to
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Every 3 months. 28 pages.


We have these threads atleast every 2 months.

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It's extremely over diagnosed.

/thread


Yep. The second lil sussie or Johnny is not the 4.0+ students & star athelete that the parents thought the tv babysitter would turn them into they start pumping them full of pills.
Posted by DrunkenStuporMan
The Mothership
Member since Dec 2012
5855 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:10 am to
Say what you will about ADHD/ADD but the meds they have created to "treat" it were pretty great for pulling all nighters during finals.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:11 am to
Anti-Depressants.

A Doctor gave me samples.I was felling kind of low,so,what the heck.

I stopped taking them soon after.I noticed that I couldn't sleep through the night anymore.

For the last 10+ years I've had to take an Anti-Depressant to sleep through the night.

I have to take it because of what it did to my brain chemistry.
Posted by Wasp
Off Highland rd.
Member since Sep 2012
1540 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:15 am to
While I do believe it is over diagnosed, I also but blame on the school system. They have no adapted to the new world fast enough to maintain the attention of children. School has been virtually unchanged in its methods since its inception in the 1800s. Teachers are either old and boring or young and lazy. Great, engaging teachers are few and far between. Kids are busier today than they have ever been. Kids today have easier access to information than any generation prior to them, so why would they want to sit around gathering information that is useless to them to memorize. Education today should teach learning and analytical skills more than the fact based education today. Kind of a rant and kind of spacey, idk maybe I have ADD?
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3165 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:17 am to
quote:

ADD/ADHD


Meh. Paymaster rates are a much bigger scam. I have seen hospitals charge in excess of $600 for a liter of normal saline that only costs them about $2. They will do this while other hospitals in their own system charge about $80 for the exact same thing (still a scam rate). Then, they turn around and allow insurers to pay $3-4 for it but if you don't have insurance, you will be expected to pay the full rate. Additionally, don't call a hospital and ask them what they charge for a service as no one at the hospital will be able to tell you until after you have incurred the charge.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
33920 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:20 am to
Of course it's over-diagnosed. Every few years the standards for diagnosing ADD/ADHD go down. Now I can walk in to the right doctor's office, say I can't focus on tests even if I try, and walk out with a year prescription for adderol or vivance. If you're over 16 and you have one of those medications, you only take it to study anyway. Parents get their children on it so it chills them out so the parents have to focus less on parenting

An easy way to prove that it's over-diagnosed is to compare our rates of diagnosed ADD/ADHD to that of other similar countries (UK, France, Italy, Spain, Canada, etc). Our rate is far greater than any of theirs.

There are some kids with legitimate ADD/ADHD. I have a friend that I've gone to school with since elementary school. He got straight A's for the most part, but if he missed his medicine on a test day, you could watch him lose his focus and start staring out the window. He'd end up finishing half the test. Then the next day he'd be back on his medicine and usually the teachers would feel bad and give him the test to finish and he'd be done with it as quickly as any other normal kid. That's the kind of kid that needs vivance
Posted by Loubacca
sittin on the dock of the bay
Member since Feb 2005
4157 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:21 am to
So, what if I have a child who is diagnosed and does not watch TV, plays outside all the time, and is so engaged with doing things at home that he can't sit still in school? His conduct is good but he is not very good at sitting all day and not actively doing thins.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
51656 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:23 am to
I think ADHD and ADD are very real because just look at those who are diagnosed at an early age I had donuts for breakfast this morning. The traffic is bad because rain and that roof is red.
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:25 am to
No. And it's not just kids.


Most of your OP is fricking retarded though.
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 8:26 am
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:27 am to
quote:

I think ADHD and ADD are very real because just look at those who are diagnosed at an early age I had donuts for breakfast this morning. The traffic is bad because rain and that roof is red.



Hahaha solid post, dude. Usually when I read tigerdroppings, Saints season is here, and Drew Brees looks good, Jimmy John's for lunch?
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 8:28 am
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
70192 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:29 am to
I think SFP posted this a few months ago.
Why French Kids Don't Have ADHD.
Posted by cdaniel76
Ponchatoula
Member since Feb 2008
19783 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:34 am to
quote:

It is definitely overdiagnosed but I certainly don't think it is a scam for some people. It can be debilitating.


Exactly.

/thread!
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:35 am to
LIMU
Posted by TheAlmightySmash
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2014
5493 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Sonic Diarrhea

The little blue guy who runs fast has loose bowels? Off topic yet completely relevant
Posted by MBclass83
Member since Oct 2010
10397 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:41 am to
Food preservatives and to much visual stimulation before the young brain is ready for it.
Posted by retired trucker
midwest
Member since Feb 2015
5093 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:43 am to
quote:

parents are too lazy to provide structure for their kids.


you completely ignored their diet

excess sugars and carbs

read the yeast connection by dr crook, quite informative...your own doctor needs to read it too.

carry on....
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88462 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:48 am to
The French have fewer because they're diagnostic criteria and treatments are completely different. It's not to say that the kids are not getting ADHD in how American doctors prescribe it.
Posted by Jakesonaplane
Denver
Member since Nov 2010
7313 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:50 am to
This post was edited on 9/11/15 at 11:58 am
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22671 posts
Posted on 9/11/15 at 8:51 am to
Yes, the entire fields of psychology and psychiatry
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