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re: Is the whole hacker / IT security / upgrade loop just a system to keep people employed?
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:17 pm to ell_13
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:17 pm to ell_13
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Younger generations are much less social in the real sense. They don't get to know their coworkers and they are often conditioned to not ask questions. It's a real problem.
Depends on where you work. What are you supposed to do, ask your supervisor who someone is any time you see them walking down the hall? If I see someone walking down our hall, I assume they are supposed to be there. They can't even get in the door without a key and/or unlock code.
The likelihood of some random business getting "hacked" is pretty low thus making a lot of the hoops users have to jump through in order to do their work a bit annoying, but it only takes one time to cause an issue.
We had a guy get his email account hacked and they were sending out emails with erroneous attachments to clients.
I think IT is very important to a business, but I would stress "in-house" IT. As a personal pet peeve, I cannot stand dealing with third party IT companies.
That said, I definitely think there is a subset of IT professionals out there with hugely inflated egos
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:22 pm to BulldogXero
quote:Engage them. Ask if you can help them. Often, these people are supposed to be escorted anyway. If it's a real employee, you've met a coworker. If it's a vendor who is supposed to be there, 10 seconds won't slow their work. If it's not someone who is supposed to be there, you bring them to the front desk and get it straight.
What are you supposed to do, ask your supervisor who someone is any time you see them walking down the hall? If I see someone walking down our hall, I assume they are supposed to be there. They can't even get in the door without a key and/or unlock code.
quote:If you think you're not vulnerable for whatever reason, you are doing it way wrong.
The likelihood of some random business getting "hacked" is pretty low
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:24 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:22 pm to BulldogXero
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They can't even get in the door without a key and/or unlock code.
false security
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The likelihood of some random business getting "hacked" is pretty low
actually, we shoot for the easy apples to get to the bigger ones..I don't want to log into PoDunk FCU, I want their Fed credentials..PDFCU will never know I was there..
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We had a guy get his email account hacked and they were sending out emails with erroneous attachments to clients.
moron
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I think IT is very important to a business, but I would stress "in-house" IT. As a personal pet peeve, I cannot stand dealing with third party IT companies.
3rd party IT finds and points out holes..This is why the Federal Govt mandates that some companies have outside audits..you're welcome
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I definitely think there is a subset of IT professionals out there with hugely inflated egos
you sound like the prime person that has issues and blames IT
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:23 pm to BulldogXero
Random question, but how many of you folks in IT/cybersecurity have your security folks fall under the IT Director/CIO/whatever?
Just curious how many orgs are doing it the right way by having cybersecurity separate from IT.
Just curious how many orgs are doing it the right way by having cybersecurity separate from IT.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:26 pm to Centinel
quote:We have 3 groups. Corporate IT. IT security. And XYZ support (me). I'm technically a system admin, but my system is devoted to operations. I rely on Corporate for licensing mostly but my main support is IT security and compliance. We are highly regulated with multiple internal and external audits (SOx and FERC) going on at once.
Just curious how many orgs are doing it the right way by having cybersecurity separate from IT.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:26 pm to Centinel
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Just curious how many orgs are doing it the right way by having cybersecurity separate from IT.
my last two jobs have had an IT crew that supported the IS team..
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:29 pm to ell_13
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We have 3 groups. Corporate IT. IT security. And XYZ support (me).
Who do those three groups report to? Do you have a separate CIO and CISO? If so, do they both report to the CEO, or does the CISO report to the CIO?
ETA: Anyone else feel free to chime in as well.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 3:31 pm to Centinel
We currently all report up to IT VP. We have about 10k employees fwiw.
ETA: I have an XYZ manager who reports to a sectional IT manager who reports to the VP.
The ITSEC side reports up a different way to the same VP. One spot below the VP is a manager who runs the compliance program. CPSD. I work closely with his group.
ETA: I have an XYZ manager who reports to a sectional IT manager who reports to the VP.
The ITSEC side reports up a different way to the same VP. One spot below the VP is a manager who runs the compliance program. CPSD. I work closely with his group.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:07 pm to GrammarKnotsi
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you sound like the prime person that has issues and blames IT
I think we do alright for ourselves
Like I said, I'm not expecting someone to hack our company, but I understand the need for us to jump through the hoops that we do.
Sorry though. Not gonna stop every stranger I meet in the hall to ask them why they're there.
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3rd party IT finds and points out holes..This is why the Federal Govt mandates that some companies have outside audits..you're welcome
Not talking about that.
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you sound like the prime person that has issues and blames IT
And you sound exactly like the person who thinks their gods gift to information security
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:08 pm to weagle99
Is this a Qanon crosspost?
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:51 am to BulldogXero
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you sound exactly like the person who thinks their gods gift to information security
*they're..
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