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Is the era of giving references dead?
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:05 pm
Chick at work asked if she could use boss as reference and he said that company policy prevented him from giving any references and the only thing the company could release was job title and dates of employment and the only ones who could do that was the corporate office. Seemed kinda different to me but he told us that for the past 10 years or so, that's pretty common.
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Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:06 pm to athenslife101
The company I work for has the same policy.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:06 pm to athenslife101
I've never had a problem. Maybe she was a shitty worker 
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:06 pm to athenslife101
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Chick at work asked if she could use boss as reference and he said that company policy prevented him from giving any references and the only thing the company could release was job title and dates of employment and the only ones who could do that was the corporate office. Seemed kinda different to me but he told us that for the past 10 years or so, that's pretty common.
That's a pretty prevalent HR policy. People do, however, continue to provide references on an informal basis.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:07 pm to athenslife101
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the only thing the company could release was job title and dates of employment
our company does this and will confirm salary and it must come from HR.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:07 pm to Usual Suspect
Boss said it was because a guy somewhere killed a bunch of people and the company that sent the references got sued because the references didn't reflect him or some shite.
This post was edited on 12/11/15 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:10 pm to athenslife101
From what I've seen companies never checked the references anyways. Seen numerous people get jobs they had no business having and a simple reference chrck could have solved that, although I don't know if a reference would speak badly of a past associate
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:10 pm to athenslife101
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Boss said it was because a guy somewhere killed a bunch of people and the company that sent the references got sued because the references didn't reflect him or some shite.
Sounds legit. For real, it does have to do with liability concerns.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:13 pm to GeauxGoose
HR only confirming employment dates is pretty standard. I dont think they can lawfully disclose salary though (OT lawyers chime in).
If they provide a direct reference, i'll preface it saying, "this is off the record" and that gives them freedom to talk usually
If they provide a direct reference, i'll preface it saying, "this is off the record" and that gives them freedom to talk usually
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:16 pm to Mo Jeaux
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For real, it does have to do with liability concerns.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:26 pm to athenslife101
I was expecting the story to end with a reference to TPS reports.
Good to see those kind of references are still going strong.
Good to see those kind of references are still going strong.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 2:28 pm to athenslife101
True story, in the 90's a group of us collaborated for years, when needed, as refs. Every phone number given with a bosses name were to specific friends based upon specific needs. Employers had no idea and we all lied our asses off.
In short? Let your mom answer a ref call. Who cares.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:00 pm to athenslife101
Many places these days will only confirm dates of employment.
But I would say it can be dependent on the position. A couple of years ago, I was on the search committee for a local high school that was hiring a new president. We not only asked for references, for the 5 semi-finalists, we either visited in person every single reference. One of the candidates was from Denver and myself and another committee member flew to Denver to have in person meetings with each of the five references the candidate listed.
But I would say it can be dependent on the position. A couple of years ago, I was on the search committee for a local high school that was hiring a new president. We not only asked for references, for the 5 semi-finalists, we either visited in person every single reference. One of the candidates was from Denver and myself and another committee member flew to Denver to have in person meetings with each of the five references the candidate listed.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:01 pm to athenslife101
Every company I've worked for the past 10 years have had that policy. I can't give any information on the record about a good or bad employee, just confirm dates of employment.
Posted on 12/11/15 at 4:06 pm to GeauxGoose
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From what I've seen companies never checked the references anyways. Seen numerous people get jobs they had no business having and a simple reference chrck could have solved that, although I don't know if a reference would speak badly of a past associate
Probably not for two reasons
1) The reference is afraid of getting sued if they say anything negative.
2) If you have a low opinion of someone, they're not going to use you as a reference.
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