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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:that’s all very debatable. Target and Costco are supposed to be pretty solid companies to work for.
where a non retail industry will probably have a higher ceiling, better coworkers and less stress.
And realistically, you make 15/hour for 6-12 months and get a 33% raise to 20? That’s if you’re lucky and get 33%
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:59 am to Indfanfromcol
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Yeah if you had a roommate, of course things would be easier.
It's not random chance, I'd get a roommate - just
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Also, your gas price is too low
No, it's not. That's two tanks per month, about what I currently buy.
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$400 a month food food is eating some protein and ramen and maybe a 12 pack on the occasion?
I'm pretty sure two people can live on $200 per week for groceries.
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$75 split two ways for electric sounds like you wouldn’t be living in the south, or you have an energy efficient apartment
Neither. I pointed out earlier in the thread that my Entergy bill last month was $65 - total. I currently live in a two bedroom house and average about $120 per month. I went up to $150 thinking it would be a bit more with two people.
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Your also assuming that all deposits for everything is taken care of and not a factor. You have a well run car that doesn’t need maintenance. Your missing a lot here.
Okay, so I live in the park for the first couple of months while I save up deposits and a down payment for a used car.
Used car: $6,000
Auto Price 6000
Loan Term 36 months
Interest Rate 5
Down Payment 600
Trade-in Value 0
Sales Tax 7
Title, Registration
and Other Fees 300
Monthly Pay: $161.84
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:00 am to Indfanfromcol
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There is honestly probably more of a future for someone at Target than his warehouse
Yep, nothing like being a shift manager for 40k a year, dealing with HS kids and such. It looks so wonderful on a resume too.
Go for it.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:00 am to Korkstand
What if you have to replace tires? That’s your entire months surplus
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:01 am to TDTOM
quote:Yeah that was the point of asking for the work, to show what's missing.
He was asked to show his work, he did. Now, they start throwing qualifiers out there.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:01 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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I'm pretty sure two people can live on $200 per week for groceries.
Easily.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:02 am to GreatLakesTiger24
You do what my broke arse did when I was going through my first divorce and couldn't get financed on a paperclip, you buy a used one.
Not blame the Boomers (I'm Gen X) and not blame corporations nor capitalism.
Not blame the Boomers (I'm Gen X) and not blame corporations nor capitalism.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yep, nothing like being a shift manager for 40k a year, dealing with HS kids and such. It looks so wonderful on a resume too. Go for it.
Maybe if you studied your competitors a little more, you could do better and afford a higher wage?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:03 am to El Segundo Guy
quote:Most of us call it "society".
For all of humankind, people were focused on surviving. We have now become so soft that survival is inadequate and a minimum quality of life is now required. WTF is this?
quote:Bitching that no one wants to work for what I'm offering sounds pretty entitled.
How more entitled can one think they are?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:03 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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Target and Costco are supposed to be pretty solid companies to work for
Yet, they raise pay then cut hours.
Retail is the lowest rung on the ladder. If you can't do that, you have no future.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:04 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:05 am to Korkstand
I wowouldn'hire you or any soft bitch anyway,, so no worries.
I own a cattle ranch. I pay well but i would worry about your delicate sensibilities and you couldn't sit on the internet all day.
I own a cattle ranch. I pay well but i would worry about your delicate sensibilities and you couldn't sit on the internet all day.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:09 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:05 am to El Segundo Guy
quote:go take another puff. no one here is doing that
Not blame the Boomers (I'm Gen X) and not blame corporations nor capitalism.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:06 am to Korkstand
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Bitching that no one wants to work for what I'm offering sounds pretty entitled
I'm cool with it.
As long as these kids get no benefits from the gubment, including health care...if they choose not to work.
If they can accept responsibility for themselves, I support dropping out forever. But we know that will never happen.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
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smaller, more high density housing can be built.
It already can be built, it's not being built because it's not as profitable as larger single-family housing.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:12 am to El Segundo Guy
quote:Do you pay enough for me to afford the internet?
I wowouldn'hire you or any soft bitch anyway,, so no worries.
I own a cattle ranch. I pay well but i would worry about your delicate sensibilities and you couldn't sit on the internet all day.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:18 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, it's not. That's two tanks per month, about what I currently buy.
So you only fill up twice the entire month? Do you have a reliable car with hood gas mileage? Is that something someone on $15 hr can afford? Or do you think their parents are going to pay for it? Or are you saying everyone needs to move close to where they work regardless of the situation?
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I'm pretty sure two people can live on $200 per week for groceries.
Let me do a quick cost walk (Orlando prices)
Ground beef - $10
Chicken thighs -$5
2 sauces - $10
Onions a’s bell peppers - $5
Sandwich bread - $3
Sandwich meat $7
Eggs - $2
Milk - $2
Bacon - $6
Being conservative, I just made what, 4 nights of dinner, a couple days of breakfast, and maybe all lunches if you eat sandwiches every day your entire life? That was $50 just like that. Not including drinks (poor people should only be allowed water amiright?), spices, fruits/vegetables, maybe 1 meal out? Sure, if your perfect situation where you have a cool roommate and can bulk buy, you can do that no issue. But your talking about some imaginary perfect world.
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Neither. I pointed out earlier in the thread that my Entergy bill last month was $65 - total.
I’m not calling you a liar. But that’s insane to fathom to me that in a metro area, a place that is only $1,000 a month is insulated enough to keep cost down that low. Your monthly pay for a car, I’m assuming that is with good credit? Because interest rates on used cars (especially at $6,000 now) will be insane. Some lenders won’t even lend for cars that old, leading you crap lenders.
More expenses you didn’t add either.
Internet -cable is no longer needed but actually internet?
Any subscriptions to literally any streaming service
Water bill (unless your $1,000 rent is covering that)
Renters insurance (required many places now)
Clothes (unless people are expected to wear the same thing for 10 years. I admit I have two shirts still in the loop that old but not great ones)
Even with you $400 left over in your breakout, what happens the second an emergency comes up? Your fricked. In metro areas, in my opinion $15 isn’t enough. In backwoods Louisiana? Sure.
ETA: and this is coming from someone who started out with a salary of $30k out of college in 2015 in BR. That was liveable (with a roommate). Could eat out on the occasion, and add student loans on top of that. With Biden era inflation? In an actual metro area? Your talking about living poor as shite.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 10:21 am
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:21 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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It already can be built
Try and get it approved, see if you can and how long it takes. Land, regulation (Including zoning) all all more expensive, adds cost burdens and limits the ability to build affordable housing.
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24 percent of the cost of a new home in the U.S. is eaten up by regulatory burdens, impact fees, taxes,
No wonder people can't afford housing or build small housing.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:23 am to El Segundo Guy
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I own a cattle ranch. I pay well
Whats your typical labor pool, if you don't mind me asking?
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:34 am to Indfanfromcol
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So you only fill up twice the entire month?
Pretty much.
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Do you have a reliable car with [good] gas mileage?
2003 Tacoma, 20/22 mpg., 180k miles, 2007 Honda 250cc, 60/80 mpg., 30k miles.
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eat sandwiches every day your entire life?
You're missing the whole point of the thread. It's not about a wage to live your whole life on, it's about a starting wage to get through the first year and get a raise.
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I’m not calling you a liar. But that’s insane to fathom to me that in a metro area, a place that is only $1,000 a month is insulated enough to keep cost down that low.
I'm talking about Baton Rouge. $1,000/mo. rent for a 2-bed place is what a friend is paying right now in a good neighborhood. I don't know about Orlando. And I keep my AC at 78 when I'm home, and turn it up to 82 when I'm out. In the winter, I put the heat at 68, and down to 55 when I go to bed or leave the house.
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Internet -cable is no longer needed but actually internet?
All my internet at home currently comes through my iPhone for $95/mo.
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Any subscriptions to literally any streaming service
I currently have zero.
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Water bill (unless your $1,000 rent is covering that)
I included that at $30. I currently pay about $60/mo. for water, sewer, garbage and recycling combined.
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Renters insurance (required many places now)
frick that. Just starting out, I wouldn't have anything to insure. Just because it's required by "many" places, I would find one where it's not.
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Clothes
Thrift stores.
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In metro areas, in my opinion $15 isn’t enough.
$15 isn't enough for what?
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what happens the second an emergency comes up?
I'd try to manage. I also have friends and family as a support network. But I guess if you're thinking about an alien who just dropped out of the sky, showing up for work naked and alone, it could be tough.
Posted on 5/24/22 at 10:41 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Because you have a limited future at Target, where a non retail industry will probably have a higher ceiling, better coworkers and less stress.
Short sightedness is a hallmark of a zoomer.
because being a picker in a warehouse opens a lot of doors.
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