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re: Is Gen Z etc totally out of touch about salaries?

Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:36 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:36 am to
You call that living?

j/k. See that's where Gen Z gets this messed up. $15/hr is not supposed to be a wage to support you and your kids and your weed habit and your avocado toast.

It's a surviving wage, not a comfortable wage.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:39 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:44 am to
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It's a surviving wage, not a comfortable wage.


Maybe we should roll regulations back to the 1950s, build more small housing, slow illegal immigration, secure local supply chains and allow people to live more independently.
Posted by TDTOM
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:47 am to
It is amazing how entitled the younger generation is.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:48 am to
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It's a surviving wage, not a comfortable wage.

Exactly, for a year or so. Just long enough to prove myself at the new job and get a raise.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:49 am to
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Maybe we should roll regulations back to the 1950s, build more small housing

You want the government to regulate what size houses builders can build?
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:50 am to
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Keeping in mind, I'd have a roommate to share rent and utilities...


Yeah if you had a roommate, of course things would be easier. Because half of your rent would be covered. If you were alone, you’d be in the hole.

Also, your gas price is too low unless you walk to work. $100 on gas a month is pre-Biden. It’s been a while, but I imagine with todays inflation, $400 a month food food is eating some protein and ramen and maybe a 12 pack on the occasion? $75 split two ways for electric sounds like you wouldn’t be living in the south, or you have an energy efficient apartment (which you won’t be getting at $1,000 a month).

Your also assuming that all deposits for everything is taken care of and not a factor. You have a well run car that doesn’t need maintenance. Your missing a lot here.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:51 am to
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It's a surviving wage, not a comfortable wage.
and why would anyone take that when you can make $22 at target, $17 at Amazon (that’s almost 15% more), etc?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:52 am
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:52 am to
As I'm sitting on my front porch drinking coffee and smoking some high test whilst thinking about this, it really is interesting.

For all of humankind, people were focused on surviving. We have now become so soft that survival is inadequate and a minimum quality of life is now required. WTF is this?

You won the MFing lottery to be in the United States in this modern day and age. I blame social media for all of these no talent influences, singers, etc that live an obtainable lifestyle with no work or effort.

Seriously. We all won the fricking lottery by not being born in some 3rd world shite hole. How more entitled can one think they are?
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:55 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:52 am to
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You want the government to regulate what size houses builders can build?


No. They need to allow zoning so smaller, more high density housing can be built.
Municipal housing regs are to protect property owners, not help home buyers.

Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:53 am to
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Yeah if you had a roommate, of course things would be easier. Because half of your rent would be covered. If you were alone, you’d be in the hole.

Also, your gas price is too low unless you walk to work. $100 on gas a month is pre-Biden. It’s been a while, but I imagine with todays inflation, $400 a month food food is eating some protein and ramen and maybe a 12 pack on the occasion? $75 split two ways for electric sounds like you wouldn’t be living in the south, or you have an energy efficient apartment (which you won’t be getting at $1,000 a month).

Your also assuming that all deposits for everything is taken care of and not a factor. You have a well run car that doesn’t need maintenance. Your missing a lot here.



He was asked to show his work, he did. Now, they start throwing qualifiers out there. Pack of clown you people are.
This post was edited on 5/24/22 at 9:54 am
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:53 am to
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Maybe we should roll regulations back to the 1950s, b
reinstate the 90% tax bracket for $150K as well?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299684 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:54 am to
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and why would anyone take that when you can make $22 at target,


Because you have a limited future at Target, where a non retail industry will probably have a higher ceiling, better coworkers and less stress.

Short sightedness is a hallmark of a zoomer.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:55 am to
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90% tax bracket


The effective rate on the top 1% was about 42%.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60666 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:55 am to
You (and just about everyone else) are kind of missing the point of the thread

It’s not that $15/hour isn’t livable or comfortable or whatever and people shouldn’t take it for that reason . It’s that it’s not a competitive wage in May 2022 and OP/op’s company needs to quit bitching and adapt
Posted by Indfanfromcol
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:56 am to
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He was asked to show his work, he did.


Well professor Indfanfromcol is in and he gives the kid a major F for missing out on tons of expenses and under estimating monthly cost.
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:56 am to
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Because you have a limited future at Target, where a non retail industry will probably have a higher ceiling, better coworkers and less stress. Short sightedness is a hallmark of a zoomer.


Lmao excuses don’t win in a competitive market. Sorry boomer
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299684 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:57 am to
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reinstate the 90% tax bracket for $150K as well?


That led to two recessions? frick no. Its stunning how ignorant you people are.

Kennedy and Johnsons "trickle down" tax reform led to economic expansion in the 1960s.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:58 am to
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Easy.
Right, as long as:

Your car is paid for and never needs repairs, oil changes, tires, battery, wiper blades, brakes, etc and gets great mileage

You and your roommate are fine talking to each other every single day with nothing to watch, read, or do

You never buy clothes, furniture, or anything really

Your grocery budget of ~$4/meal also covers toiletries, cleaning supplies, etc

Nothing unexpected ever happens in your life



So yeah I guess if you have a free car that lasts forever with zero maintenance and gets great mileage and your free clothes and free furniture never wear out and you have zero friends or entertainment and you don't go anywhere or do anything other than work and cook and nothing out of the ordinary ever happens to you, you might be able to survive on $15/hr.

As it happens, though, most of us have to pay for things, and of that $470 you thought you had $150 pays the note on your beater of a car, oil changes work out to $20/month, misc other maintenance easily another $20, maybe you can eke by on $10 thrift store clothing and donated furniture. Hope parking is free at home and at work. Then I guess you can tuck the remaining $9/day into the bank for a rainy day. You're going to need to save up for an umbrella.
Posted by Indfanfromcol
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
14933 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:58 am to
There is honestly probably more of a future for someone at Target than his warehouse. Yes I see it was a Fortune 500 company, that doesn’t mean there is upward mobility or room for advancement for someone who qualifies only for a puller.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299684 posts
Posted on 5/24/22 at 9:59 am to
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Lmao Zoomers don’t know how to win in a competitive market.



Fixed
You're fricked. You'll spend your entire life blaming other sand not understanding how to fix your own life.
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