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Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:58 am to Napoleon
Blueprint for Armageddon is Awesome, Isn't it?
Posted on 12/7/16 at 8:58 am to colorchangintiger
quote:and dey was drove out
Al-Andalus was 1,300 years ago
now dey comin back baw
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:01 am to Ace Midnight
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The most important person of the last century - depending on your perspective is almost certainly Adolf Hitler - while a sequel to WWI was nearly inevitable - the breadth and scope of the destruction was exclusively the result of one man's vision and the death cult he created.
Hitler's Worldview was shaped during WW1
If the conditions and experiences from WW1 didn't exist, Hitler doesn't come to power.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:03 am to Napoleon
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I wonder if Japan is the one variable that would have existed regardless of Gavrilo's actions.
No. Japan was our ally during WWI. The reason they turned against us was because we shunned them during the negotiations at Treaty of Versailles.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:05 am
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:04 am to Napoleon
The most impoertant person of the 20th century has to be Alexander Fleming.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:06 am to fr33manator
Is that another podcast?
I'm a reader but a listener.
I'm a reader but a listener.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:07 am to Napoleon
He played his part. There is no doubt about that. But truth be told he was one single player in a much bigger game where countless others had their own roles to play.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:08 am to upgrayedd
They still had aspirations of being a global power after their war with Russia the decade before ww1.
I think they would have spread across the Pacific and at least attacked the Philippines regardless.
I think they would have spread across the Pacific and at least attacked the Philippines regardless.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:10 am to Darth_Vader
The timing though. Had ww1-Been delayed two years it's possible there would be no USSR.
IT'S possible the treaty at Versailles could have been different.
Sure Germany wanted war. But the timing here was pivotal.
IT'S possible the treaty at Versailles could have been different.
Sure Germany wanted war. But the timing here was pivotal.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:12 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Gavrilo only pawn in game of life
He played his part. There is no doubt about that. But truth be told he was one single player in a much bigger game where countless others had their own roles to play.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:14 am to Kafka
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Gavrilo only pawn in game of life
Exactly. An important and famous pawn. But a pawn none the less.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:19 am to Napoleon
The war was happening regardless of him.. the pieces were moving and needed a spark to ignite..
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:19 am to fr33manator
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If the conditions and experiences from WW1 didn't exist, Hitler doesn't come to power.
Yeah, but it wasn't Pricip that made Hitler - Pricip just lit a match.
That's significantly different than the decades of work Hitler did prior to and during WWII.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:03 am to Ace Midnight
This guy was pretty important too. Possibly saved a billion lives. Norman Borlaug
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:17 am to Napoleon
You're wrong.
Life. Finds. A way.
Life. Finds. A way.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:19 am to Napoleon
Either Princip or the man he murdered, Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand, depending on how you look at it. Without them, there is no WW1, no WW2, no computer, no internet, no mess in the Middle East, possibly no ultrapowered USA. That event started the domino effect that led to the status of today's world.
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:21 am to Kafka
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Gavrilo only pawn in game of life
Candygram for Gavrilo
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:22 am to Darth_Vader
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He played his part. There is no doubt about that. But truth be told he was one single player in a much bigger game where countless others had their own roles to play.
The other one involved in this mess is Otto Von Bismarck, since he's the one who basically assured mutual destruction in the event of "some damned foolish thing in the Balkans."
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:48 am to Napoleon
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Preventing that alone would have changed the last seventy years drastically.
A series of Russian Revolutions began in 1905 through 1917 and was not going to be stopped until the monarchy was overthrown.
even if the Russian army wasn't decimated by WWI, they would have been feckless in stopping the Bolshevik tidal wave
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