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re: Is freemasonry a complete scam?
Posted on 9/2/19 at 5:08 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
Posted on 9/2/19 at 5:08 pm to GeauxtigersMs36
quote:
gidion
puts bibles in.motels?
0
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:50 pm to Dandy Lion
Nice cut and paste.
You went through a lot of trouble to prove to me that you have no idea what you are cutting and pasting about.
Your personal input only supports what I have just written.
Here is a clue: Find somebody else from which to get information. It's going to be kinda hard though. You see nothing of importance and I mean NOTHING is written down. #2. Pike is roundly overlooked by the few Masons that have even heard of him. He is hero to non-Masons.
Now go fondle your necklace, pray to your plastic replica of Jesus deceased mother and send your money to your communist leader. ... Oh yeah, don't forget to post some pictures of nearly naked women to serve as a stumbling block for your fellow man.
You went through a lot of trouble to prove to me that you have no idea what you are cutting and pasting about.
Your personal input only supports what I have just written.
Here is a clue: Find somebody else from which to get information. It's going to be kinda hard though. You see nothing of importance and I mean NOTHING is written down. #2. Pike is roundly overlooked by the few Masons that have even heard of him. He is hero to non-Masons.
Now go fondle your necklace, pray to your plastic replica of Jesus deceased mother and send your money to your communist leader. ... Oh yeah, don't forget to post some pictures of nearly naked women to serve as a stumbling block for your fellow man.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:53 pm to CaptSpaulding
quote:No, if we were in each other's company I could explain it to your satisfaction. I don't do books.
Would he hand me a book he wrote?
Posted on 9/2/19 at 8:56 pm to Salamander_Wilson
quote:Not likely. Hollyweird morals and ideals run counter to that of Masons.
I once dated an actress who claimed The movie industry was completely run by free masons, and that it is impossible to have a significant career without becoming one.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:13 pm to Redbone
quote:
nothing of importance and I mean NOTHING is written down.
Why is this?
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:16 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
Question: What is the Catholic Church's official position on Freemasonry? Are Catholics free to become Freemasons?
Answer: Freemasonry is incompatible with the Catholic faith. Freemasonry teaches a naturalistic religion that espouses indifferentism, the position that a person can be equally pleasing to God while remaining in any religion. Masonry is a parallel religion to Christianity.
The New Catholic Encyclopedia states, “Freemasonry displays all the elements of religion, and as such it becomes a rival to the religion of the Gospel. It includes temples and altars, prayers, a moral code, worship, vestments, feast days, the promise of reward or punishment in the afterlife, a hierarchy, and initiation and burial rites.”
Masonry is also a secret society. Its initiates subscribe to secret blood oaths that are contrary to Christian morals. The prospective Mason swears that if he ever reveals the secrets of Masonry – secrets which are trivial and already well-known – he wills to be subject to self-mutilation or to gruesome execution. (Most Masons, admittedly, never would dream of carrying out these punishments on themselves or on an errant member).
Historically, one of Masonry’s primary objectives has been the destruction of the Catholic Church; this is especially true of Freemasonry as it has existed in certain European countries. In the United States, Freemasonry is often little more than a social club, but it still espouses a naturalistic religion that contradicts orthodox Christianity. (Those interested in joining a men’s club should consider the Knights of Columbus instead.)
The Church has imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics who become Freemasons. The penalty of excommunication for joining the Masonic Lodge was explicit in the 1917 code of canon law (canon 2335), and it is implicit in the 1983 code (canon 1374). Because the revised code of canon law is not explicit on this point, some drew the mistaken conclusion that the Church’s prohibition of Freemasonry had been dropped. As a result of this confusion, shortly before the 1983 code was promulgated, the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith issued a statement indicating that the penalty was still in force.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:19 pm to Jimbeaux
The Craft likes to present itself as “an ancient Order dedicated to the Brotherhood of Man and the Fatherhood of God.” Some of the “Brethren” may take that description seriously, depending on which room of the Masonic edifice they inhabit. But the Lodge has many suites, annexes, and outbuildings whose inmates are not necessarily fraternal towards each other, much less filial towards God.
The basic unit of “regular” Freemasonry is the Blue (or Craft) Lodge, which “works” (imparts) the three traditional degrees—Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft, and Master. Initiation is the main business of a local Masonic Temple. Members learn grips, signs, and rituals. They re-enact their central myth, the death and resurrection of Hiram Abiff, legendary builder of Solomon’s Temple. With one exception, American local Lodges are grouped in state Grand Lodges that are recognized by the Mother Lodge in London. Master Mason’s wives can join the Order of the Eastern Star, their daughters Job’s Daughters or the Order of the Rainbow for Girls, and their sons the Order of the De Molay.
A fervent minority of Anglo-American Masons acquire additional degrees teaching more sophisticated symbolism in separate organizations called Appendant Bodies that are not controlled by the Mother Lodge. These are the York Rite (10 more grades) and the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite (30 more grades) which is subdivided into Northern and Southern Jurisdictions. Holders of the highest degrees in either Rite are eligible to join the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Shriners) for philanthropy and fun.
The basic unit of “regular” Freemasonry is the Blue (or Craft) Lodge, which “works” (imparts) the three traditional degrees—Entered Apprentice, Fellow Craft, and Master. Initiation is the main business of a local Masonic Temple. Members learn grips, signs, and rituals. They re-enact their central myth, the death and resurrection of Hiram Abiff, legendary builder of Solomon’s Temple. With one exception, American local Lodges are grouped in state Grand Lodges that are recognized by the Mother Lodge in London. Master Mason’s wives can join the Order of the Eastern Star, their daughters Job’s Daughters or the Order of the Rainbow for Girls, and their sons the Order of the De Molay.
A fervent minority of Anglo-American Masons acquire additional degrees teaching more sophisticated symbolism in separate organizations called Appendant Bodies that are not controlled by the Mother Lodge. These are the York Rite (10 more grades) and the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite (30 more grades) which is subdivided into Northern and Southern Jurisdictions. Holders of the highest degrees in either Rite are eligible to join the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine (Shriners) for philanthropy and fun.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:26 pm to SlapahoeTribe
quote:
I have yet to see a virgin on the altar
welp, i’m no longer interested.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:28 pm to Dandy Lion
Yup, still going to the wrong places for info.
So close yet so far....
Keep trying heathen.
So close yet so far....
Keep trying heathen.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:32 pm to Redbone
The Religion Of The Masonic Lodge
by David Padfield
The Masonic Lodge claims six million members worldwide. In its ranks you will find some of the greatest men in American history. Men like Henry Ford, General Douglas MacArthur, George Washington and 12 other U.S. presidents. You will also find doctors, lawyers, judges and, unfortunately, many Christians.
I have a great deal of respect for Freemasons as individuals. Many of my uncles are in the Lodge. While I respect these men, I hold their lodge in total abhorrence. It is an insidious evil for it duplicates the sin of Absalom when he "stole the hearts of the men of Israel" (2 Samuel 15:6). Masonry will steal the heart of a Christian. The Masonic temple is the temple of Baal, and at its altar unsuspecting men solemnly vow their lives to a pagan god.
If we can establish that Masonry is a religion, then surely any honest Christian would feel compelled to abandon the Lodge. God's prophet of old asked, "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3). Can a man worship the God of Masonry and the God of the Bible at the same time? In Matthew 12:30 Jesus said, "He who is not with me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad."
Is Masonry A Religion?
The answer to this question depends upon whom you ask. The Grand Lodge of Indiana publishes a small tract titled Freemasonry, A Way Of Life. This tract, given to outsiders, says, "Though religious in character, Masonry is not a religion, nor a substitute for one." This would be good, except the story changes after a man has become a Mason. For example, the Indiana Monitor says, "Freemasonry is a charitable, benevolent, educational, and religious society." The Kentucky Monitor goes even further when it states, "...as Masons we are taught that no man should ever enter upon any great or important undertaking without first invoking the blessing of Deity. This is because Masonry is a religious institution..." Albert Pike (a 33rd Degree Mason), one of the most celebrated Masonic scholars, claims that "every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." (Morals and Dogma, p. 213). This book was published under the auspices of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-Third Degree of the Scottish Rite.
The problem is that the Lodge lies to candidates before their initiation. "Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hereticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it ... So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters away." (Morals and Dogma, p. 105). Can you imagine a sane man joining any organization if he knew they were going to "intentionally" mislead him?
Another Masonic scholar, Albert Mackey (a 33rd Degree Mason), claims the only reason to defend Masonry is because of its religious element. "I contend, without any sort of hesitation, that Masonry is, in every sense of the word, except one, and that its least philosophical, an eminently religious institution that it is indebted solely to the religious element which it contains for its origin and for its continued existence, that without this religious element it would scarcely be worthy of cultivation by the wise and good." (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, p. 727).
The Faith and Order Committee of the Methodist church has issued a report urging men not to join the Masonic Lodge since it is a "competitor of Christianity." The report also states, "There is a great danger that the Christian who becomes a Freemason will find himself compromising his Christian beliefs or his allegiance to Christ, perhaps without realizing what he is doing." (Evansville Courier, June 13, 1985). If the Methodist church can understand this, why can't some of my brethren? Listen to Paul in 2 Corinthians 6:14, "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers, For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?"
Attitude Towards The Bible
One of my greatest concerns about the Lodge is its attitude towards the Bible. "The Volume of the Sacred Law is an indispensable part of the furniture of a Lodge. In our jurisdiction it is usually the Bible, but any candidate not a Christian may have substituted for it any other volume which he considers sacred: e.g., the Old Testament, Koran, Vedas, or Laws of Confucius. In one lodge in China, there are three Sacred Books open on the altar at the same time, and the candidate elects one of the three on which he is obligated." (Indiana Monitor, p. 38). While the Bible might be described in various ways, it is not a piece of furniture! It is the source of all religious truth. It is the book of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
When a candidate bows before the Masonic altar he kisses the "Volume of Sacred Law." This volume can be any book he deems to be religious. "The explanation of the presence of the Holy Bible on the altar could not tell the whole story, although true in itself. It represents the Sacred Book of the Law, but has not exclusive rights as such on the altar of Freemasonry, for the supremely sane reason that no one religion has exclusive rights within the Fraternity. The Vedas of the Brahman, the Zend-Avesta of the Parsee, the Koran of the Mohammedan, have, among Masons of these faiths, as rightful a place upon our altar as the Holy Bible. In any faith, however, its Sacred Book of Law is the symbol of man's acknowledgement of and his relation to Deity. And in this universality of Masonry we find one of our greatest lessons: Toleration." (The Entered Apprentice, Grand Lodge of Indiana, p. 14). This toleration is too much for any man who claims to be a Christian.
Barbaric Oaths
If nothing else, the oath a man takes when he joins the Lodge ought to forever settle the question, "Can A Christian Be A Mason?" While blindfolded, half naked and kneeling at the altar, the candidate takes an oath swearing he will never reveal the "secrets of the Lodge." The oath ends with these words: "I furthermore promise and swear that I will not write, print, stamp, stain, cut, carve, hew, mark or engrave them on anything moveable or immovable, capable of receiving the least impression of a sign, word, syllable, letter or character, whereby they may become legible or intelligible to any person under the canopy of heaven, and the secrets of Masonry be thereby unlawfully obtained by my unworthiness. All this I most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution to keep the same, without the least equivocation, mental reservation or secret evasion whatsoever, binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn out by its roots and buried in the sands of the sea at low water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I in the least, knowingly or wittingly, violate or transgress this my Entered Apprentice Obligation. So help me God and keep me steadfast." (King Solomon's Temple, Indiana edition, pp. 24, 25). What a contrast to our Lord who said "do not swear at all ... but let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.'" (Matt. 5:33-37).
To those who are in the Lodge, let me beg you to heed the words of Paul and "come out from among them and be separate" (2 Cor. 6:17).
by David Padfield
The Masonic Lodge claims six million members worldwide. In its ranks you will find some of the greatest men in American history. Men like Henry Ford, General Douglas MacArthur, George Washington and 12 other U.S. presidents. You will also find doctors, lawyers, judges and, unfortunately, many Christians.
I have a great deal of respect for Freemasons as individuals. Many of my uncles are in the Lodge. While I respect these men, I hold their lodge in total abhorrence. It is an insidious evil for it duplicates the sin of Absalom when he "stole the hearts of the men of Israel" (2 Samuel 15:6). Masonry will steal the heart of a Christian. The Masonic temple is the temple of Baal, and at its altar unsuspecting men solemnly vow their lives to a pagan god.
If we can establish that Masonry is a religion, then surely any honest Christian would feel compelled to abandon the Lodge. God's prophet of old asked, "Can two walk together, except they be agreed?" (Amos 3:3). Can a man worship the God of Masonry and the God of the Bible at the same time? In Matthew 12:30 Jesus said, "He who is not with me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad."
Is Masonry A Religion?
The answer to this question depends upon whom you ask. The Grand Lodge of Indiana publishes a small tract titled Freemasonry, A Way Of Life. This tract, given to outsiders, says, "Though religious in character, Masonry is not a religion, nor a substitute for one." This would be good, except the story changes after a man has become a Mason. For example, the Indiana Monitor says, "Freemasonry is a charitable, benevolent, educational, and religious society." The Kentucky Monitor goes even further when it states, "...as Masons we are taught that no man should ever enter upon any great or important undertaking without first invoking the blessing of Deity. This is because Masonry is a religious institution..." Albert Pike (a 33rd Degree Mason), one of the most celebrated Masonic scholars, claims that "every Masonic Lodge is a temple of religion; and its teachings are instruction in religion." (Morals and Dogma, p. 213). This book was published under the auspices of the Supreme Council of the Thirty-Third Degree of the Scottish Rite.
The problem is that the Lodge lies to candidates before their initiation. "Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hereticism and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be misled; to conceal the Truth, which it calls Light, from them, and to draw them away from it ... So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets, and intentionally leads conceited interpreters away." (Morals and Dogma, p. 105). Can you imagine a sane man joining any organization if he knew they were going to "intentionally" mislead him?
Another Masonic scholar, Albert Mackey (a 33rd Degree Mason), claims the only reason to defend Masonry is because of its religious element. "I contend, without any sort of hesitation, that Masonry is, in every sense of the word, except one, and that its least philosophical, an eminently religious institution that it is indebted solely to the religious element which it contains for its origin and for its continued existence, that without this religious element it would scarcely be worthy of cultivation by the wise and good." (Encyclopedia of Freemasonry, p. 727).
The Faith and Order Committee of the Methodist church has issued a report urging men not to join the Masonic Lodge since it is a "competitor of Christianity." The report also states, "There is a great danger that the Christian who becomes a Freemason will find himself compromising his Christian beliefs or his allegiance to Christ, perhaps without realizing what he is doing." (Evansville Courier, June 13, 1985). If the Methodist church can understand this, why can't some of my brethren? Listen to Paul in 2 Corinthians 6:14, "Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers, For what fellowship has righteousness with lawlessness? And what communion has light with darkness?"
Attitude Towards The Bible
One of my greatest concerns about the Lodge is its attitude towards the Bible. "The Volume of the Sacred Law is an indispensable part of the furniture of a Lodge. In our jurisdiction it is usually the Bible, but any candidate not a Christian may have substituted for it any other volume which he considers sacred: e.g., the Old Testament, Koran, Vedas, or Laws of Confucius. In one lodge in China, there are three Sacred Books open on the altar at the same time, and the candidate elects one of the three on which he is obligated." (Indiana Monitor, p. 38). While the Bible might be described in various ways, it is not a piece of furniture! It is the source of all religious truth. It is the book of God (2 Tim. 3:16-17).
When a candidate bows before the Masonic altar he kisses the "Volume of Sacred Law." This volume can be any book he deems to be religious. "The explanation of the presence of the Holy Bible on the altar could not tell the whole story, although true in itself. It represents the Sacred Book of the Law, but has not exclusive rights as such on the altar of Freemasonry, for the supremely sane reason that no one religion has exclusive rights within the Fraternity. The Vedas of the Brahman, the Zend-Avesta of the Parsee, the Koran of the Mohammedan, have, among Masons of these faiths, as rightful a place upon our altar as the Holy Bible. In any faith, however, its Sacred Book of Law is the symbol of man's acknowledgement of and his relation to Deity. And in this universality of Masonry we find one of our greatest lessons: Toleration." (The Entered Apprentice, Grand Lodge of Indiana, p. 14). This toleration is too much for any man who claims to be a Christian.
Barbaric Oaths
If nothing else, the oath a man takes when he joins the Lodge ought to forever settle the question, "Can A Christian Be A Mason?" While blindfolded, half naked and kneeling at the altar, the candidate takes an oath swearing he will never reveal the "secrets of the Lodge." The oath ends with these words: "I furthermore promise and swear that I will not write, print, stamp, stain, cut, carve, hew, mark or engrave them on anything moveable or immovable, capable of receiving the least impression of a sign, word, syllable, letter or character, whereby they may become legible or intelligible to any person under the canopy of heaven, and the secrets of Masonry be thereby unlawfully obtained by my unworthiness. All this I most solemnly and sincerely promise and swear, with a firm and steadfast resolution to keep the same, without the least equivocation, mental reservation or secret evasion whatsoever, binding myself under no less penalty than that of having my throat cut from ear to ear, my tongue torn out by its roots and buried in the sands of the sea at low water mark, where the tide ebbs and flows twice in twenty-four hours, should I in the least, knowingly or wittingly, violate or transgress this my Entered Apprentice Obligation. So help me God and keep me steadfast." (King Solomon's Temple, Indiana edition, pp. 24, 25). What a contrast to our Lord who said "do not swear at all ... but let your 'Yes' be 'Yes' and your 'No' be 'No.'" (Matt. 5:33-37).
To those who are in the Lodge, let me beg you to heed the words of Paul and "come out from among them and be separate" (2 Cor. 6:17).
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:34 pm to Redbone
quote:
heathen.
Given your ilk, I take this as a compliment.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:35 pm to Salamander_Wilson
quote:For the same reason that I keep telling dandylyin he is close but yet oh so far away.
Why is this?
No matter how much a person reads from books and the net a person cannot convince me they are a Mason nor do they have the Mason's training.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:41 pm to Dandy Lion
quote:That would go along well with your ignorance on this subject.
I take this as a compliment.
You just don't get it.
Now go do what you understand.
Go repeat a bunch of Hail Marys, pray to some dead people that have Saint in front of their names and tell us how great your leader in Rome is.
Too bad you don't know Jesus!
Posted on 9/2/19 at 9:48 pm to Redbone
quote:
Go repeat a bunch of Hail Marys, pray to some dead people that have Saint in front of their names and tell us how great your leader in Rome is.
Too bad you don't know Jesus!
What a stand-up guy, mocking another person's religion. Doesn't sound like a person of good character or someone acting by the plumb of uprightness to me.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:00 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:It all started with him provoking me after luring me into a conversation.
mocking another person's religion.
There is this thing about provoking people in the bible .
Then I noticed he was starting threads with nearly naked women for others to peruse.
That would fall under the heading of putting stumbling blocks in front of fellow man, also in the bible.
My mocking is of him worshiping a religion, not what the religion is about.
By their works ye shall know them. By his works I'm afraid dandylyin is missing the boat.
I'm being on the level with him.
This post was edited on 9/2/19 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:04 pm to ArmyHogs
They are a brotherhood. I don't know much about it, but know some older men who are freemasons.
I am not sure if every chapter does this in their community, but they help raise money if a family is in need due to unexpected hard times. Now I don't know if they only do it for people who are family members of a FM.
Supposedly they have their own set of religious beliefs which you have to be a Mason to know exactly what they believe, but I don't think its anything all that extreme.
Years ago I went into a local lodge. There was a bible on a podium in the front center of the lodge, but its not the "official" bible, its their bible.
I am not sure if every chapter does this in their community, but they help raise money if a family is in need due to unexpected hard times. Now I don't know if they only do it for people who are family members of a FM.
Supposedly they have their own set of religious beliefs which you have to be a Mason to know exactly what they believe, but I don't think its anything all that extreme.
Years ago I went into a local lodge. There was a bible on a podium in the front center of the lodge, but its not the "official" bible, its their bible.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:09 pm to ArmyHogs
I'd be no member of a private club that would have me as a member.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:23 pm to ArmyHogs
I consider the Knights of Columbus to be a bigger scam.
When I became of age one of my friends was joining and talked me into joining with him. The only thing I did after joining was pay my dues. After about 3 years I thought it was a bunch of bullshite.
The active members were a bunch of men who used it as a reason to get away from their wives.
Within that time they caught 2 or 3 different people stealing money from the funds of different events (bingo, annual fair, and there was one person who handled the fees for the parade that is part of the fair, they had to replace that person because he was caught overcharging people who entered the parade and keeping what he overcharged by).
And when I decided to not renew my membership, I had some dude call me from Lafayette. He wanted to come talk with me before I officially quit. I told him he can come talk to me, but I am not going to renew or buy the insurance he was trying to push. He said that was okay, he just wanted to talk to me in person.
He came over one evening. Gave me his pitch on why I should reconsider and that it was in my best interest to get the insurance that god has allowed them to be able to offer. I told him "As I told you, I am not renewing and I am not interested in the insurance". Dude turned into a completely different person. He went from a "good god fearing family man" to an a-hole and said "I drove all the way from Lafayette just to come see you. Now I have to drive all the way back and you can't even show some appreciation"
I said something like "man I told you I wasn't renewing or buying the insurance. You should have got the hint then that you would be wasting your time and I think I said a few cuss words because he told me as he was leaving "well we don't need someone who represents himself the way you do representing the knights of columbus".
When I became of age one of my friends was joining and talked me into joining with him. The only thing I did after joining was pay my dues. After about 3 years I thought it was a bunch of bullshite.
The active members were a bunch of men who used it as a reason to get away from their wives.
Within that time they caught 2 or 3 different people stealing money from the funds of different events (bingo, annual fair, and there was one person who handled the fees for the parade that is part of the fair, they had to replace that person because he was caught overcharging people who entered the parade and keeping what he overcharged by).
And when I decided to not renew my membership, I had some dude call me from Lafayette. He wanted to come talk with me before I officially quit. I told him he can come talk to me, but I am not going to renew or buy the insurance he was trying to push. He said that was okay, he just wanted to talk to me in person.
He came over one evening. Gave me his pitch on why I should reconsider and that it was in my best interest to get the insurance that god has allowed them to be able to offer. I told him "As I told you, I am not renewing and I am not interested in the insurance". Dude turned into a completely different person. He went from a "good god fearing family man" to an a-hole and said "I drove all the way from Lafayette just to come see you. Now I have to drive all the way back and you can't even show some appreciation"
I said something like "man I told you I wasn't renewing or buying the insurance. You should have got the hint then that you would be wasting your time and I think I said a few cuss words because he told me as he was leaving "well we don't need someone who represents himself the way you do representing the knights of columbus".
Posted on 9/2/19 at 10:26 pm to OweO
Great Architect of the Universe?
Important note: Not all masons are aware that freemasonry is used as a cover for evil! Many initiates disapprove of self-seeking criminality and persecution that goes on, particularly at the higher degrees. These higher degrees are controlled by a 'higher' order calling itself 'Illuminated' Masonry.
French and continental 'Grand Orient' Freemasonry is largely separate from 'Anglo-Saxon' Freemasonry, as exemplified by the grand lodges of England, Ireland, Scotland and the USA. Traditionally they have been 'at war'. Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry believes in the 'Great Architect of the Universe' - GAOTU - and its rituals are ostensibly monotheistic (if Luciferian) - whereas Grand Orient Freemasonry is godless.
Important note: Not all masons are aware that freemasonry is used as a cover for evil! Many initiates disapprove of self-seeking criminality and persecution that goes on, particularly at the higher degrees. These higher degrees are controlled by a 'higher' order calling itself 'Illuminated' Masonry.
French and continental 'Grand Orient' Freemasonry is largely separate from 'Anglo-Saxon' Freemasonry, as exemplified by the grand lodges of England, Ireland, Scotland and the USA. Traditionally they have been 'at war'. Anglo-Saxon Freemasonry believes in the 'Great Architect of the Universe' - GAOTU - and its rituals are ostensibly monotheistic (if Luciferian) - whereas Grand Orient Freemasonry is godless.
Posted on 9/2/19 at 11:16 pm to Dandy Lion
Dandy Lion = rejected for Masonic membership!
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