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re: Is cancelling a YouTube channel a digital book burning?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:12 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:12 am to OMLandshark
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YouTube calls itself a free speech platform.
Actually it argued quite the opposite in the recent lawsuit with PragerU. And the court interprets that the First Amendment agrees with that argument.
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"Despite YouTube's ubiquity and its role as a public-facing platform, it remains a private forum, not a public forum," the court said.
BBC article on the lawsuit ruling
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Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:13 am to Lsupimp
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You made my point for me. An 88% ad revenue monopoly IS a barrier to entry. There can be no competition, because it funnels ALL capital to one corporate behemoth.
Tell it to Yahoo who used to control the search engine market.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:19 am to BluegrassBelle
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Actually it argued quite the opposite in the recent lawsuit with PragerU. And the court interprets that the First Amendment agrees with that argument.
Then they've gone the way of their parent company Google. Google's old logo was "Don't Be Evil", and then of course they sold out to the Chinese and dropped that.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:20 am to Lonnie Utah
If you have a beef with google, your criticism is misplaced. Where google (and any number of other platforms (like facebook)) need to be firmly criticized is in their data collection practices. I won't call it invasion of privacy because users still have choice, but the depth of the data collection on users isn't understood by the average user. Consequently, other platforms such as DuckDuckGo that don't collect user data are gaining on Google.
If anything is going to break them, it's this issue (not their filtering of content).
If anything is going to break them, it's this issue (not their filtering of content).
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 10:21 am
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:22 am to Slagathor
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Did you appeal the decision?
Yes and it did not work.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:22 am to Green Chili Tiger
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No it doesn't. It's a private forum that moderates the content posted on it. Just like this one.
I know I can't ridicule Ed Orgeron on this platform. It's open about it. But YouTube claims it's not biased against conservatives and moderates, when it absolutely is. The only part of the Right that gets a pass on that platform are the corporatists over at Fox News. YouTube is turning into a glorified Hulu at this point that is a dumpster fire. The elites blame YouTube for Trump winning in 2016 and they are stifling it in the lead up towards 2020.
Tim Pool's Epic Rant
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:25 am to OMLandshark
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But YouTube claims it's not biased against conservatives and moderates, when it absolutely is.
There are too many gun channels on youtube for that to be true.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:25 am to TheFonz
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Yes and it did not work.
that's unfortunate... where did you source the broadcasts from?
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:28 am to TheFonz
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Yes and it did not work.
That's too bad. I love that sort of content. My Grandfather and FIL were WWII vets in the south Pacific.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:29 am to Slagathor
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where did you source the broadcasts from?
Been collecting them here and there since the early 90’s on cassette. The internet helped me find more foreign broadcasts from Germany, France, Australia, Canada, and the UK.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:29 am to Lonnie Utah
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There are too many gun channels on youtube for that to be true.
The good news about all this chaos is that the 2nd Amendment is pretty safe for another generation. YouTube doesn't give a frick about guns. They give more of a shite about the culture war.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:31 am to OMLandshark
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Tim Pool's Epic Rant
What a coincidence. I found that same video (full length version) on Youtube.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:33 am to Lonnie Utah
At no point in history did anybody ever call Yahoo search engine a monopoly. Small potatoes at any point to the monopoly that Google now is. And comparing Alta Vista or Veronica or early Dawn of Man technologies to today is laughable.
Small potatoes at any point to the monopoly that Google now is. And comparing Alta Vista or Veronica or early Dawn of Man technologies to today is laughable.Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:33 am to TheFonz
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Been collecting them here and there since the early 90’s. The internet helped me find more foreign broadcasts from Germany, France, Australia, Canada, and the UK.
Dang, I'll bet that's quite a collection! I'd be curious to know YT's specific reasons (if they even gave them) for 86ing that kind of thing that seems purely educational.
While you may not be able to monetize it as with YT, have you reached out to any WWII museums or universities?
--sorry to hijack--
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 10:35 am
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:34 am to Lsupimp
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At no point in history did anybody ever call Yahoo search engine a monopoly. Small potatoes at any point to the monopoly that Google now is.
Again, having dominant market share and monopoly power is not illegal.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:36 am to Lsupimp
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At no point in history did anybody ever call Yahoo search engine a monopoly. Small potatoes at any point to the monopoly that Google now is. And comparing Alta Vista or Veronica or early Dawn of Man technologies to today is laughable.
I think you're woefully underestimating how big Yahoo was pre-Google given the platform and access to the internet at the time.
Of course Google is huge given how widespread internet access is today compared to Yahoo at its height. But Yahoo was massive.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:37 am to Lonnie Utah
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Right, and the point remains: There is a massive difference in a private entity editing/censoring a book and the Government doing it.
What people who are happy with a governmental push to heavily regulate social media never seem to realize is that if it's used to benefit your side today, it can be used against your side tomorrow.
It really shocks me the number of alleged conservatives who are happy with the idea of government dipping their toe in viewpoint regulation of private social media companies.
The solution isn't government deciding. The solution is the free market opening alternatives to fill market gaps.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:38 am to Slagathor
They specifically noted the Nazi related stuff. Didn’t give me an option to pull it off and leave the rest. Could not access my account. I wouldn’t take it off anyway. It’s part of the collection and should be all or none.
It’s all digitized now. All of the old stuff has been converted. I guess it would be easy enough to give copies to the WWII museum. Never really thought about it.
YouTube is just another cog in the leftist propaganda machine trying to influence minds. To understand what’s happening today and why it’s bad, you have to know your history. That’s why schools only half-arse teach it anymore, and platforms such as YouTube pick and choose what is to be presented. That’s why statues are being torn down and streets renamed. Erase history and the young minds won’t have anything to reference.
It’s all digitized now. All of the old stuff has been converted. I guess it would be easy enough to give copies to the WWII museum. Never really thought about it.
YouTube is just another cog in the leftist propaganda machine trying to influence minds. To understand what’s happening today and why it’s bad, you have to know your history. That’s why schools only half-arse teach it anymore, and platforms such as YouTube pick and choose what is to be presented. That’s why statues are being torn down and streets renamed. Erase history and the young minds won’t have anything to reference.
This post was edited on 6/24/20 at 10:45 am
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:39 am to Rep520
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What people who are happy with a governmental push to heavily regulate social media never seem to realize is that if it's used to benefit your side today, it can be used against your side tomorrow.
It really shocks me the number of alleged conservatives who are happy with the idea of government dipping their toe in viewpoint regulation of private social media companies.
The solution isn't government deciding. The solution is the free market opening alternatives to fill market gaps.
Posted on 6/24/20 at 10:40 am to Rep520
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What people who are happy with a governmental push to heavily regulate social media never seem to realize is that if it's used to benefit your side today, it can be used against your side tomorrow.
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