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re: Is alcoholism a disability? Steve Sarkisian thinks so....
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:58 am to TDsngumbo
Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:58 am to TDsngumbo
It isn't a disease just like being a fat frick isn't a disease. Take some personal responsibility and own your shitty life choices and don't expect me to have empathy for them.
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 10:59 am to TDsngumbo
frick you for being stupid.
And you judging me by an avatar is hilarious. GFY
And you judging me by an avatar is hilarious. GFY
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 11:00 am
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:00 am to Sao
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It's a disease. Period. End Thread
Even if this is true, they can still fire him for cause considering he showed up to work trashed and buying alcohol on the company's time and credit card.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:01 am to TDsngumbo
Dude, in your own post he didn't choose to stop drinking, he was in ICU. Upon leaving, the brain's chemical imbalance made him crave what you believe to be a choice.
Do you really have a BIL?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:02 am to Sao
I'm not going to change your opinion and you aren't going to change mine.
Alzheimer's is a disease, yes.
Alzheimer's is a disease, yes.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:02 am to TDsngumbo
Well when you look at the choices he made, do you really believe it was his choice to revert back? Even after experiencing a near death situation, why wouldn't he chose to keep from drinking.
Clearly he had a disease and he needed serious help. Some people try to sweep it under the rug, but that only hurts the situation.
I know if I was of sound mind and body and had to either choose drinking or my health I would obviously choose my health. His actions represent that it is clearly something more than that.
Clearly he had a disease and he needed serious help. Some people try to sweep it under the rug, but that only hurts the situation.
I know if I was of sound mind and body and had to either choose drinking or my health I would obviously choose my health. His actions represent that it is clearly something more than that.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:05 am to Boondock Saint
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I think it is a mental disorder.
It's a spiritual malady.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:05 am to OweO
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If it was a choice people would not have to struggle with it.
That makes no sense at all.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:05 am to TDsngumbo
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Well one consciously allows themselves to get to the point of no return, correct? Was that person not addicted at the beginning? They CHOSE to allow themselves to get to that point.
It sounds like you are pissed off because your brother in law is causing your sister so much pain. I get that. Do you honestly think he drinks that much beer and whiskey per day for the hell of it? Does he just enjoy getting drunk and destroying his life in the process?
He is the perfect example of an addict. He clearly needs professional help and needs to go to rehab, not just a day or two in a hospital to "get over" the DT's.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:05 am to TDsngumbo
It's a poster's actual ex-wife. An ode to the worst razorback poster of all time.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:07 am to Boondock Saint
he better win b/c he will never get hired again
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:07 am to Bonck1987
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Clearly he had a disease and he needed serious help.
Not a disease, it's an addiction. And yes, they need help and it shouldn't be swept under the rug.
Alcoholism starts as a choice to pick up that first drink. You keep drinking to the point where you eventually become addicted and dependent on it to live a relatively normal life.
I was born with Muscular Dystrophy. I can't do a damn thing about it. It's just going to get worse and I might eventually end up in a wheelchair. It's a disease. I didn't pick up a drink or snort a drug that gave it to me.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:14 am to TDsngumbo
I'm gonna go on a limb and say his rehab is going poorly if he is pointing fingers to the point of a lawsuit.
Disease mentality has good intention but shite outcomes like this.
I work in healthcare. If I stole a ream of paper I'd be shitcanned, but if I stole dilaudid (controlled substance) I will not be fired if willing to go to rehab. Worked with 4 different people that have gone this route. The theft is never an issue?
Disease mentality has good intention but shite outcomes like this.
I work in healthcare. If I stole a ream of paper I'd be shitcanned, but if I stole dilaudid (controlled substance) I will not be fired if willing to go to rehab. Worked with 4 different people that have gone this route. The theft is never an issue?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:15 am to Bmath
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Alcoholism and other forms of compulsion and addiction are types of mental illness. You're actually proving my point in not recognizing it as such.
Okay, I will recognize alcoholism as a mental illness. The media is quick to label mass-murderers/shooters as mentally ill. I understand your frustration, but how do you suggest moving forward with different distinctions so the stigma is removed?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:17 am to Boondock Saint
Getting away from the emotional arguments going on here, neither alcoholism nor addiction in and of themselves are disabilities as defined by the Social Security Administration. But the physical and mental effects of said addictions can be.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:18 am to Artie Rome
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But the physical and mental effects of said addictions can be.
I can agree on that. Being fat isn't a disability in itself. But the bad knees and back you get from being fat can be a disability.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:21 am to Boondock Saint
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You seem to be in the minority with this opinion. I don't doubt that some can quit cold turkey. With so many addicts literally killing themselves every day don't you think at least some of them have tried to quit and just fail over and over?
By that logic, addiction to cigarettes is a disease ?
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:23 am to TDsngumbo
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Well one consciously allows themselves to get to the point of no return, correct?
You completely ignored what I said, but that's because you've already formed your opinion.
People with compulsion disorders can completely reason as to why not to make a choice.
It is when those chemical imbalances win out that you give in and exhibit those behaviors.
Once again, take the time to actually educate yourself on the science behind what is going on. You've formed an anecdotal opinion based on "if I can do it, then so can you."
We are all wired differently. Hormonal levels and neurotransmitters are regulated differently within individuals. There is also new biomedical research showing that our gut Microbiomes secrete compounds that influence our psychology. Numerous subconscious factors weigh on our mental state and influence our actions.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:25 am to OweO
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While I am not an alcoholic, I know people who are. For those who seeked help, it is a daily struggle to not drink. They don't want to drink, but the urge is there. If it was a choice people would not have to struggle with it.
So are cigarettes. Doesnt mean that you dont have a choice to smoke or not. You can simply say no.
Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:26 am to logjamming
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By that logic, addiction to cigarettes is a disease ?
I really don't like using the word disease. I think addiction is a mental disorder that some people are predisposed to. Addiction to any addictive substance, including nicotine, falls under this distinction.
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